You know, I just... I woke up, and I looked in the mirror, and I thought, hey, what's with all the sin? I need to change. I'm... I'm dirty. I'm, I'm bad with the... sex and the envy and that, that loud music us kids listen to nowadays.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Natter 61*  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Sep 28, 2008 12:16:36 pm PDT #1133 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I do not understand the people who want a president who is just like them. I want a president who is better than I am.

Right? I'm a smart person (that's not me being egotistical; I refuse to pretend I'm not smart because it "isn't acceptable" to acknowledge one's own strengths). And yet, I don't want someone *as smart as* me in office. Fuck no. I'd destroy the planet if I were POTUS. I want someone WAY smarter than me in office.

I think that the people who say they can relate to Palin, who say they like Shrub because he's "folksy," are people who really believe that that imagined affinity is reciprocal; if *they* can related to Palin, then surely *she* can relate to *them.* And if she relates to them, then she'll be on their side when she's in office.

I'm fairly certain that's been widely disproven with Shrub; the people he relates to, in the sense of "passing legislation that makes their lives easier," are big-business owners, NOT the people who think he's "folksy." He's SCREWED the people who think he's "folksy."

Why they don't see that, and don't think that Palin will do the same damn thing is beyond my comprehension.


amych - Sep 28, 2008 12:24:04 pm PDT #1134 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I think that the people who say they can relate to Palin, who say they like Shrub because he's "folksy," are people who really believe that that imagined affinity is reciprocal

Yep. The whole "who would you want to have a beer with" line of crap is predicated on "and of course he would just lurve to have a beer with you". And Reagan? Wouldn't. Shrub? Wouldn't. Ross Perot? Lord knows he probably would, because who the hell else does he have to drink with and ramble at...


beekaytee - Sep 28, 2008 12:32:00 pm PDT #1135 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

And yet, I don't want someone *as smart as* me in office.

I've said it a thousand times. The biggest shock of my life...a life filled with pretty big stuff...was moving to DC and discovering that the people who run this country are not, in fact, smarter than me.

Did I say shock, there? I misspelled "disappointment."


Tom Scola - Sep 28, 2008 12:34:08 pm PDT #1136 of 10001
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

I'm working on a theory that people like W and Palin because they know that they're phonies. They see in them the same things that they see in themselves -- that they're just faking it -- they don't really believe the things that their church and community require them to say.

It's just a theory, I haven't really developed it.


Sue - Sep 28, 2008 12:35:36 pm PDT #1137 of 10001
hip deep in pie

Are they living in the same country now?!?!

They are. But not in the same town.


Typo Boy - Sep 28, 2008 12:53:59 pm PDT #1138 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Teppy and others - yeah ideally I'd like Brainiac 5 (the good one from the future). But failing that I'd like a bright well intentioned person rather than a stupid malignant one. Teppy if the choice is you or Obama, OK you prefer Obama. But what if the choice was you or Bush? Or you or McCain? Or you or Palin? (On the other side of this argument, Noam Chomsky was once asked the first thing he'd do if elected president. His reply: "I'd shoot myself".)


Allyson - Sep 28, 2008 12:58:51 pm PDT #1139 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Home stretch. Dear god, this is crazy. I can do this. I swear I can do this. I need a shower. And lunch. And maybe more smokes. I have to put teh towels in the laundry. Finish this chapter and get to the next. And then it will be done.

Send karma this way.


Jesse - Sep 28, 2008 12:59:59 pm PDT #1140 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I don't know that I would have done a better job than Bush, frankly, because I would have spent all my time avoiding work with you people!


Typo Boy - Sep 28, 2008 1:02:07 pm PDT #1141 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

King Log would have been better than King Stork.


Dana - Sep 28, 2008 1:08:10 pm PDT #1142 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

We could probably rule by committee pretty well.