So, how was your summer? Mine was fun. Saw some fish. Went mad with hunger. Hallucinated a whole bunch.

Angel ,'Conviction (1)'


Spike's Bitches 42: Which question do you want me to answer first?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Laga - Aug 31, 2008 12:37:04 pm PDT #3865 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

ugh Steph that sucks. Sorry my lighthearted foodie post came after your venting. I have trotted out my wedding album (from my failed marriage) before because I'm proud of the dress my bff made for me and I don't mind letting people laugh at my silly haircut and I like to show off my friends in all their finery but I see now how that might make current loves feel uncomfortable. Thanks for the reality check.


omnis_audis - Aug 31, 2008 12:37:15 pm PDT #3866 of 10001
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

try shopping AFTER eating.


WindSparrow - Aug 31, 2008 12:38:12 pm PDT #3867 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

{{{{{{Teppy}}}}}}

I'm sorry I have no words for you.


Laga - Aug 31, 2008 12:38:48 pm PDT #3868 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

try shopping AFTER eating.

I did have a big breakfast but... have you been to Fresh & Easy?


vw bug - Aug 31, 2008 12:40:31 pm PDT #3869 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

Oh, goodness, Steph. That's a lot of ick in 24 hours! My brain would be doing even worse with all that.


Scrappy - Aug 31, 2008 12:41:44 pm PDT #3870 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Teppy--I can see how the wedding album might make you feel horrible, but in this case I really feel it isn't about you. After all, what was he doing? He was talking about marriage and what it means with you. Yeah, he dopily used his own previous marriage to do so, but that's still what he was doing. The actor Sam Anderson married J and his Ex, so I heard about the wedding and how cool he was every damn time Anderson was onscreen in Angel. And it bugged. But you and I are the ones our guys are with NOW. To negate that is to negate their growth and their choices and their desires.


Scrappy - Aug 31, 2008 12:43:34 pm PDT #3871 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Also,it sounds like you really have your mom's number. I am sure it desen't make it hurt less, but I really admire you for your perspective.


Steph L. - Aug 31, 2008 12:43:38 pm PDT #3872 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I see now how that might make current loves feel uncomfortable. Thanks for the reality check.

I think that if my mom hadn't ALSO called me ugly last night, I wouldn't be feeling so....perpetually lacking, I guess, today. And maybe looking at The Boy's wedding album wouldn't have bothered me. I feel pretty secure about our relationship, but -- it was just the wrong time to show me the whole thing, you know?

I know he was married before, I know he *still* feels enormous -- and I mean like the Pacific goddamn Ocean -- guilt about "failing" the marriage. I know he thinks that breaking his marriage vows was never going to happen, and when it did, everything went topsy-turvy and so how can you count on anything?

I get all that. I'm supporto-gal.

But do I have to see *all* of it? He's not subtle enough to be trying to send me a message by showing me the album -- he deals in single entendres and un-encoded messages, which is a joy to me. Seriously. So I know he's not hinting that I should pack up and move out.

But it still stings on the heels of being called ugly, IN FRONT OF MY BOYFRIEND, by my mom.

Some days I honestly can't believe she *didn't* eat her young.


Glamcookie - Aug 31, 2008 12:50:22 pm PDT #3873 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Ugh, Steph. What a shitty day. I can absolutely see your mother's effed up "joke" coloring the viewing of the wedding album. Also, I think it bodes well that the Boy feels so badly about his marriage failing. He takes his commitments seriously, which means he takes your relationship seriously as well.


Steph L. - Aug 31, 2008 12:50:50 pm PDT #3874 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

But you and I are the ones our guys are with NOW. To negate that is to negate their growth and their choices and their desires.

I know. I just also know that, 7 years later, he still regrets his divorce. I think it's more about the fact that he broke his vows, and less about wanting to be with his ex, but some days it's tough. Some days can think, "Of *course* he regrets breaking his vows; he's an honorable man with more integrity than I thought it was possible for one person to have, and I admire that deeply."

But some days I think, "The whole concept of 'moving on' is lost on you, huh?"

Also,it sounds like you really have your mom's number. I am sure it desen't make it hurt less, but I really admire you for your perspective.

God DAMN. I swear, I know why she's fucked up the way she is, but it still doesn't make me want to cut her any slack today.

I'm getting better at really believing that I'm pretty. More days than not. But that's way different than being Scarlett O'Hara. And I know that sounds like exaggeration, and all I can say is -- you don't know her. She's not a bad person, or a bad mother; she's human. But she puts an extremely high value on physical appearance, and above all, she puts an extremely high value on her ability to be the prettiest woman in the room. Anyone who threatens that -- and I never used to be able to -- is going to get caught in the crosshairs. I just haven't been the target before.

The equivalent would be me calling her "old" -- which, note, I didn't do when I "joked" back last night.