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Spike's Bitches 42: Which question do you want me to answer first?  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Trudy Booth - Aug 12, 2008 11:15:57 am PDT #1266 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Why do they think that as people get fatter their arms also get longer?!?!?


Steph L. - Aug 12, 2008 11:18:38 am PDT #1267 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

How hard would it be to make more larger versions of the clothes you're making for everyone? And, while I'm complaining, why do they think that as people get fatter their arms also get longer?

Your second question is answered by your first. Too many manufacturers make "plus-sized" versions of their standard sizes by merely up-sizing the article of clothing uniformly, all over. But, as anyone who's ever tried on plus-sized clothing can tell you, the clothes need to be up-sized proportinally, not just zapped with an embigulator.

Some lines do this really well (see also: Lane Bryant's Right Fit jeans), and others are just sad examples of very poorly embiggened clothes.


Ginger - Aug 12, 2008 11:23:52 am PDT #1268 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Lane Bryant's Right Fit jeans are great, and I learned about them here. They do not, however, come in black. The black jean is a staple of my wardrobe and they seem to be disappearing.


Atropa - Aug 12, 2008 11:27:33 am PDT #1269 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

But, as anyone who's ever tried on plus-sized clothing can tell you, the clothes need to be up-sized proportinally, not just zapped with an embigulator.

This is why I've taught myself how to tailor clothes. Because things that fit my bust probably don't fit through the shoulders, arms, and waist.


SailAweigh - Aug 12, 2008 11:28:16 am PDT #1270 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

up-sizing the article of clothing uniformly, all over.

Especially the arms. Hey, if I'm wearing a size 14 top, I can't fit my arms into size 8 sleeves people! My arms aren't longer, they're fatter around.


Cashmere - Aug 12, 2008 11:35:51 am PDT #1271 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I have also been remarkably lucky that none of my BIDs have been from outside sources. My family has been wonderfully supportive of me no matter what size I am. Even my teeny, tiny twin sister never brought up the issue--when she was a size 2 and I was a 12, she respected me and treated me with love and affection.

Noone in my family has said, "You'd be so pretty if..." I was always (and still am) gorgeous in their eyes.

It's all been internal--which require their own special talent to defeat.


omnis_audis - Aug 12, 2008 11:56:08 am PDT #1272 of 10001
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

{{{Sean}}} Hope the blue disapates a bit.

The black jean is a staple of my wardrobe and they seem to be disappearing.
As is the nature of black. If you wear it, you disappear t /theater geek

WRT not being thin. A former co-worker was REALLY stressing and upset one day. I inquired what was wrong. She was AGONIZING over the stomach staple surgery. I was shocked. Her doctor "strongly urged her to consider it" (I think those were the words). Mind you, she is not a thin person by any means, but I would never consider her a candidate for the stomach staple thing. And I told her so. She looked at me like "really? Do you really think that?" I said something to the effect, "I'm not gonna lie and say your paper thin or anything. You are large. But not HUGE. Do you get stuck in armed chairs? Do stairs groan? Not that I've seen. I've sat next to you at a show, and I wasn't hugging the other seat handle. You are what you are" Several months later, I couldn't help but notice she had lost a good 50#'s or so. And I commented as much. She thanked me, saying she DIDN"T get the surgery. And realized that she has been stressing for years about her weight, and that she ate more (stress eating, I'm guilty of it too). And that when she stopped stressing about it, it helped a ton. She is still not "thin", but feeling a lot better.

As for me? I got a belly. I need to get rid of it, to make walking on the crutches as easy as possible. Since I can't exercise all that well, and stress eating is in my mode of working, I realize I'll never be "skinny". With that, I have SLOWLY been trying to change my eating habits. No 'diet' per se, but improve my eating habits. First, I started with cutting the soft drinks. Wasn't hard for me, but I was still drinking a couple ginger ales or cokes every day. Next I eliminated (as much as one can) HFCS. That shit is NASTY. But it is EVERYWHERE. So I read the ingredients before buying. If it has HFCS, I don't buy it. Then I worked on MSG. Apparently that stuff is designed to make you ignore your stomach and eat more. Again, not easy to do, since they put it in a LOT of frozen foods. Then I worked on cutting sugar snacks. These 4 steps were slowly implemented over a 18-24 month period. Slowly change habits. I did loose some weight. Not a ton. But I'm not bulging at the seams anymore. And I am not in the mindset that I *HAVE* to keep to it. I will have a slice of cake. Ice Cream. Cookies. I just make a conscious effort to take a small plate/bowl of the snack, and eat that, and not the whole bag or whatever. I've discovered I'm far too lazy to go up for seconds of potato chips. And I snack on apples, honey dew's, grapes, carrots, peanuts, raisins, and oranges a lot more than I ever did before.

OK, that's me. I know it's not everyone. But I'd say 1) don't stress about it, that is fuel on the fire. And 2) try things slow. You can't slap a ship into reverse and expect it to miss the iceberg. But if you keep power up, and turn hard to port, you could avoid being the Titantic.

Thin is like money. Easy to loose, and a bitch to gain.

OK, I'm working. Really I am. I swear. (oh ya, and all of this was written after eating a zip lock of deformed cookies from last night, so ya, I'm not perfect).


Sophia Brooks - Aug 12, 2008 11:58:01 am PDT #1273 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Why do they think that as people get fatter their arms also get longer?!?!?

This is making me laugh and laugh and laugh, because it is so true! And I am a petite size to begin with, so I think it is even worse. Of course, I always get the "you aren't petite thing" from people, but petite means short with shorter limbs people! I am fat and petite!

Also, I find I have a slightly easier time finding clothes as a size 20 than as a size 14, as those didn't seem to exist, but not as easy as when I was a 4 or 6.


omnis_audis - Aug 12, 2008 11:59:42 am PDT #1274 of 10001
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

:: said with tongue in cheek ::

I'm sure that, for instance, when I see my Big Giant Torso on the billboard, I'll be struck with "OMG I'm ENORMOUS!!!" and feel bad.
Of course you are enormous, YOU ARE ON A BILLBOARD. Ain't nothing small on them things.

Also, forgot to write, the original reason I came into bitches. I took a quick peak at the medal count. And Google linked me to a .cn site, which I assume is a China domain. Since China is leading in Gold, they have China at the top of the pack. Even though USA is leading in overall qty of medals. I thought it was a funny spin doctor moment. [link]

I'm working... see!


Toddson - Aug 12, 2008 12:00:39 pm PDT #1275 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

The gastric bypass (? is that the formal name) is kind of evil. People talk about it like it's the easy solution. First of all, it's SURGERY. The niece of a woman in my office died during this surgery. Second, if you have an emotional problem with food and decide to get the surgery, you'll still have an emotional problem. Several years ago a woman who worked in my office had had the surgery. But she hadn't done anything about her compulsive eating. So ... since you can only fit so much in what's left of your stomach, she'd stuff herself, go into the restroom, throw it up, then come back and do it all over again. Repeatedly. She lost weight, sure ... but she wasn't doing her health any favors.