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Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JenP - Sep 16, 2008 7:00:34 am PDT #8930 of 10003

I want an electric car. I wonder how much they're going to be?


sumi - Sep 16, 2008 7:01:09 am PDT #8931 of 10003
Art Crawl!!!

I love that it's called the "Volt". .. like the Colt but electric.

Or maybe not.

Oh, maybe Ford will make a "Watt".


Gudanov - Sep 16, 2008 7:03:43 am PDT #8932 of 10003
Coding and Sleeping

I want an electric car. I wonder how much they're going to be?

I doubt it will be affordable for most people (including me alas), too many batteries. I just hope it lives up to GM's press. I want this sort of vehicle to catch on so the prices can be driven down.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 16, 2008 7:04:35 am PDT #8933 of 10003
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Introducing the Infiniti Ampere.


Lee - Sep 16, 2008 7:09:59 am PDT #8934 of 10003
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Our firm is converting from Lotus notes to Outlook, so today I have to go spend an hour and a half in a class about being converted.

I don't think there's enough coffee in the world.


Typo Boy - Sep 16, 2008 7:26:04 am PDT #8935 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

This version of the Volt article is paginated and has a different photo of the car on each page. It does look cool, but 40 miles on one charge and then 300 miles on electricity generated from gas...well, it's quasi all-electric, but leaves me confused. Is there an edge given by those 40 miles?

Most people drive fewer than 40 miles each days. And IC engines are so inefficient that it takes less fossil fuel and fewer emissions to drive a mile on electricity than a mile on even the most efficient gasoline car even when the electricity is generate from fossil fuels. Plus if we want to we can completely decarbonize the grid and make it 95% plus wind, solar, hydro and geothermal.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 16, 2008 7:44:07 am PDT #8936 of 10003
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The thing I don't get is why oil companies aren't very publicly pumping umpteen billions of the profits they're making into renewable energy technology. We're going to have to switch sooner or later, and having the setup in place for widespread manufacture of company-controlled windmill fields and solar panels would ensure that they'd still be making money in the energy business long after the oil gets too scarce to be a practical energy source.


Nora Deirdre - Sep 16, 2008 7:49:32 am PDT #8937 of 10003
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

The thing I don't get is why oil companies aren't very publicly pumping umpteen billions of the profits they're making into renewable energy technology.

Because, as the current economic crisis shows (to name just one example,) people are stupid, greedy, shortsighted, and averse to change until everything comes crashing down around them.


Tom Scola - Sep 16, 2008 7:53:33 am PDT #8938 of 10003
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Petroleum is a vile substance, that corrupts the souls of everyone who deals with it.

Except the Norwegians, for some reason.


juliana - Sep 16, 2008 7:55:23 am PDT #8939 of 10003
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

The thing I don't get is why oil companies aren't very publicly pumping umpteen billions of the profits they're making into renewable energy technology.

They are pumping a lot of money into the renewable energy sector, but their board members and shareholders have seen the craze for renewables come and go before, and a lot of them remain unconvinced that changing course like this is the best way to go. Scalability is still a huge issue, environmental factors loom large (like, say, wind turbine fields killing scores of birds), and the U.S. government has removed tax credits for developing renewable energy. A lot of this really does have to do with the government - if there was a program in place to strenuously encourage renewable-energy development, we'd be seeing a lot more movement in that area (like Spain has). As it is, we're dependent on wealthy people like T. Boone Pickens and Vinod Kohsla to get that ball rolling.

Also, people really are adverse to change. But if the money is there, they'll go for it.