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'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


megan walker - Aug 08, 2008 12:49:28 pm PDT #1845 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

The researchers made exactly that point in their paper, megan. They just a correlation; they can't say what it's caused by.

See what I get for not actually clicking on the link and reading? I have parenting on the brain though, mainly because last night's Bullshit! was on "Stranger Danger".


Cass - Aug 08, 2008 12:55:49 pm PDT #1846 of 10003
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

As a society we somehow feel betrayed by a man sleeping around. Why do we feel betrayed? He didn't cheat on us.

There are people I would like as my president and people I would like as a spouse. These are rarely the same people.

???

Yeah, I agree. He had every right to take that risk. Just kinda sucks, for me in a political sense, that he did.


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2008 1:00:46 pm PDT #1847 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And the right to risk President McCain?

Yes! It might make him an idiot, but how does the word "right" even begin to figure into it? That's hyperbole of the highest order, and ill-serves your argument.

Fact is, neither of us know what it looks like from the inside, but for some reason he thought he could get away with it, or that it was worth the risk. Two consenting adults makes it at worst a bad idea. Maybe even a very bad idea. But if he has no right to risk President McCain, shouldn't we be taking more concrete steps against the anti-Christ? I mean, if it had just been one man's zipper standing between us and the end of all we hold dear...


Tamara - Aug 08, 2008 1:01:41 pm PDT #1848 of 10003
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

There are people I would like as my president and people I would like as a spouse. These are rarely the same people.

Absolutely. Marital infidelity has nothing to do with the job.


CaBil - Aug 08, 2008 1:01:42 pm PDT #1849 of 10003
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Every girl who read Misty of Chincoteague just sighed with envy, CaBil.

I've got to read that book, because it seems that virtually all the women I have talked to have done the same thing Ginger....


Typo Boy - Aug 08, 2008 1:02:35 pm PDT #1850 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Well, I admit since he never got close to the nomination he has not in fact given us Pres. McCain. And since he is not a nominee, it was none of the media's business. But the risk I'm saying he had no right to take was not cheating on his wife. (I don't even know if it was cheating. For all we know they have an open marriage.) It is running with no disclosure. You are responsible for forseeable consequences of your actions. President McCain was a forseeable possible consequence - avoided only because he was not in fact nominated.


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2008 1:11:26 pm PDT #1851 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

President McCain was a forseeable possible consequence - avoided only because he was not in fact nominated.

Absolutely. But don't you think it's a bit...overzealous to say that he had no right to embark upon a set of actions that might have resulted in it?


Cass - Aug 08, 2008 1:15:15 pm PDT #1852 of 10003
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Given that, (Yes, electoral college and '00 was a massive mess in Florida and other real issues) the choice is in the hands of the voters, I would blame *us* for President McCain. But, in full disclosure, I blame this country* for Bush already.

*eta: the majority of voters who actually voted, specific-cakes.


Typo Boy - Aug 08, 2008 1:23:28 pm PDT #1853 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

don't you think it's a bit...overzealous to say that he had no right to embark upon a set of actions that might have resulted in it?

No moral right. I'm not denying his legal right. Are you saying running for President without disclosure was not in fact morally wrong in those circumstances? It seems we are getting awfully puritanical about hyperbole thse days. I remember Hec telling a Nader supporter "to hell you go" (in a good humored fashion) without anyone pouncing and calling him overzealous.


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2008 1:57:08 pm PDT #1854 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I misread your tone, TB. I apologise. And I still think he had every moral and legal right to be an idiot.