Ah, the pitter patter of tiny feet in huge combat boots. Shut up!

Mal ,'War Stories'


Natter 60: Gone In 60 Seconds  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Barb - Aug 08, 2008 12:30:59 pm PDT #1835 of 10003
“Not dead yet!”

It's not the extramarital sex or even the fact that it happened while Elizabeth was having a recurrence of the cancer-- for all we know, she knew of the affair and maybe even condoned it. (I've certainly heard of that happening before-- and it winds up being something that saves marriages ultimately.)

It's the sheer foolishness of the timing that I can't get over. It's like "Dude, use your head! The one between your shoulders!"


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 08, 2008 12:31:21 pm PDT #1836 of 10003
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Eh, corproate execs defrauding the pensions of people I don't know and will never meet isn't any of my business either, strictly speaking. Doesn't prevent me from regarding them as scum when the news breaks.


Kathy A - Aug 08, 2008 12:34:05 pm PDT #1837 of 10003
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I'm with Barb--it's the stupidity that burns. When the Lewinsky thing blew up on Bill Clinton, I was more pissed that he couldn't keep it zipped for eight years than I was he had the affair (fling/blow job/whatever) at all. Show a little intelligence, man!


Typo Boy - Aug 08, 2008 12:34:18 pm PDT #1838 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Tamara, I agree with the anti-puritanism and yet...

He was having the affair or doing the cheating, and stopped. And there were tons of rumors out there about it - meaning it would have been exposed eventually. And you lie about it and run anyway? What if he'd won the nomination and then it came out? President McCain ...

That is not a trivial risk. And Edwards was not just risking himself. President McCain would mean a significantly worse U.S. and a significantly worse world. That is a risk he had no right to take.


Trudy Booth - Aug 08, 2008 12:35:28 pm PDT #1839 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

What if he'd won the nomination and then it came out? President McCain ...

That's where I get pissed off. PRIORITIES, dammit.


Tamara - Aug 08, 2008 12:41:27 pm PDT #1840 of 10003
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

Typo Boy, I agree with you on the stupid. He was stupid for lying about it and continuing to run. But, the reason we would have to worry about a President McCain in that case is because Americans are irrationally concerned and judgmental about who is sleeping with who. As a society we somehow feel betrayed by a man sleeping around. Why do we feel betrayed? He didn't cheat on us.

And Matt, your Enron example is our business because it defrauds the public at large since that affected energy prices and the stock market. The CEO sleeping with his admin is none of our business.


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2008 12:41:43 pm PDT #1841 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That is a risk he had no right to take.

???

Holy absolutism, Batman. No, I think he has the right to mess up his marriage just the same as the rest of us.


Allyson - Aug 08, 2008 12:44:06 pm PDT #1842 of 10003
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Stands in the ita corner, and also in the "she may have condoned it" corner, where I bet Dan Savage is standing.


Kathy A - Aug 08, 2008 12:46:38 pm PDT #1843 of 10003
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

IsportsN, Cubs win! Cubs win! Took them 11 innings, but they finally beat the Cardinals. If they can at least win this series (sweeping it would be best!), they have put significant space between them and the third-place Cards in the standings. I'm still leery about hoping they'll get to the playoffs (been burned too many times), but I have more expectations now than I did a month ago.


Typo Boy - Aug 08, 2008 12:47:16 pm PDT #1844 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Holy absolutism, Batman. No, I think he has the right to mess up his marriage just the same as the rest of us.

And the right to risk President McCain? I mean he could have disclosed before running. But to run with something out there that can be found and used against him? How is that absolutism. In case like that you disclose so you take your hit or get past it before trying for the nomination.