Now we're saving a vampire from vampires. I got two words for that -- Nuh and uh.

Gunn ,'Underneath'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


dcp - Jun 03, 2008 5:43:15 pm PDT #894 of 10003
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

How is "Shere Khan" a pun

Is an attempt at clever wordplay not a pun? Perhaps there is a better term for that type of wordplay, but it didn't occur to me when I was typing the post. What do you suggest?

I still think the wordplay was lame. Kipling named the tiger "tiger." He named the bear "bear." He named the leopard "leopard." He named the cobra "cobra" and the tailorbird "tailor."

Rikki-tikki-tavi -- now there's a good name.


Maria - Jun 03, 2008 5:47:55 pm PDT #895 of 10003
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

not least that her so-called popular vote margin doesn't even include my STATE.

a nonsensical popular vote claim that did not count the state I live and vote in.

And when Obama is the nominee, what about the people from Pennsylvania, Ohio, and South Dakota? He certainly did not win the popular vote in those states. Are they not counted either?

It's a ridiculous statement, from either candidate.

I just hope that everyone else who was initially a Clinton supporter will, too.

Not going to happen. I don't know if I'm ready to trust someone who, four years ago, was a state senator. He hasn't convinced me that anything's going to change. I will not drink the Kool-Aid until I know what's in it.


brenda m - Jun 03, 2008 5:51:27 pm PDT #896 of 10003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

And when Obama is the nominee, what about the people from Pennsylvania, Ohio, and South Dakota? He certainly did not win the popular vote in those states. Are they not counted either?

Huh? Obama's not deleting those votes from the totals, or totting up delegate counts only from caucuses or the states he won. I don't think it's really comparable.


P.M. Marc - Jun 03, 2008 5:52:29 pm PDT #897 of 10003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

And when Obama is the nominee, what about the people from Pennsylvania, Ohio, and South Dakota? He certainly did not win the popular vote in those states. Are they not counted either?

I believe her argument was that she won the popular vote, which discounted states with a caucus system, like Washington. That's the root of the issue.


Typo Boy - Jun 03, 2008 5:57:47 pm PDT #898 of 10003
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

And when Obama is the nominee, what about the people from Pennsylvania, Ohio, and South Dakota? He certainly did not win the popular vote in those states.

Umm the point here is that Clinton claims a popular vote lead based that includes some states. If you count all states Obama has a popular vote lead. So the objection is not that Clinton did win our states (though she did not) but that she is claiming that if you add up all the votes she has the popular vote, arriving at that total by leaving our votes out of the total. That is the problem with unofficial tallies. You can always find an excuse for not counting someone. Clinton totaled up various states and claimed to have won the popular vote overall - by leaving 14 states out. That is a bullshit claim.

>I just hope that everyone else who was initially a Clinton supporter will, too.

Not going to happen. I don't know if I'm ready to trust someone who, four years ago, was a state senator. He hasn't convinced me that anything's going to change. I will not drink the Kool-Aid until I know what's in it.

I don't much care for the "drink the kool-aid" metaphor. Obama is my third choice, maybe fourth. But if the choice is him or "endless war" , "appoint more John Roberts" to the supreme court McCain, the guy who bravely spoke against torture and then voted for it, I have no trouble voting for Obama over him. If you support Clinton, I presume you support at least some of what she campaigned on. There are zero issues on which McCain is better than Obama.


Sean K - Jun 03, 2008 6:01:16 pm PDT #899 of 10003
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Obama's speech was....

He knocked out of the park.


Susan W. - Jun 03, 2008 6:05:31 pm PDT #900 of 10003
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

And when Obama is the nominee, what about the people from Pennsylvania, Ohio, and South Dakota? He certainly did not win the popular vote in those states. Are they not counted either?

That's not the issue. There are NO numbers from Washington in her popular vote tally. Zero. Because we're a caucus state that doesn't report official numbers of caucus-goers, we don't exist in her calculus. She literally is not including us. That's my issue. All these people in this picture [link] plus all of us already crammed into the gym when it was made, plus the thousands like us all around the state, the ones that supported her just as much as those of us who supported Obama, don't exist in that so-called "popular vote" number she's tossing around.


Maria - Jun 03, 2008 6:10:05 pm PDT #901 of 10003
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Obama's not deleting those votes from the totals, or totting up delegate counts only from caucuses or the states he won.

I didn't say he was. It was stupid for her to do, but there is a very real possibility that those voters will feel just as perturbed as Susan and Typo, albeit for slightly different reasons.

The problem is in the nominating process. This primary cycle has certainly shown that the current system doesn't work when it's this close. There's no way in hell a nominee should be decided by superdelegates.

I've got a funny feeling that the Democratic Party is not done with polarization. McCain's got to be loving this.


sarameg - Jun 03, 2008 6:20:37 pm PDT #902 of 10003

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the painfully high cost of new furniture: [link] (that's a couplethree days old. What is not shown is the swelling.)

Also? I have mutant strawberries. How'd they get that name anyway?


Laga - Jun 03, 2008 6:22:07 pm PDT #903 of 10003
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

oww! I haven't had a bruise like that since I played Whirly-Ball.