Giles: Stop that, you two. Riley: He started it... Xander: He called me a bad name! I think it was bad; it might have been Latin.

'Selfless'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Jul 16, 2008 12:39:59 pm PDT #8196 of 10003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Is it possible she's both? Because otherwise yeah, that's some seriously bad reporting.


JZ - Jul 16, 2008 12:40:09 pm PDT #8197 of 10003
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

“However, if anything were to qualify as a hate crime, to us this seems like this might be it.”

“However, if this were to qualify as a hate crime, to us this seems like anything might.”

There. I fixed it for her. Also, just a little while ago her professional title was Director of Communications for the Catholic League, (the link is to a bio page for a radio interview she did about the recent unpleasantness), with no mention of any official work for the diocese, so I'm still holding out a tiny bit of hope that the "hate crime" idiocy is Donohue's fault.

eta: Others got there first, but, yeah, it looks like shitty reporting. Which she of course wouldn't feel any need to correct, because anything that could make her boss seem even tangentially Official would be all to the good. Wankers all.

Vortex, no offense taken at all.


megan walker - Jul 16, 2008 12:41:13 pm PDT #8198 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Fabulous JZ. See what a good editor can do?


Vortex - Jul 16, 2008 12:41:16 pm PDT #8199 of 10003
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

No, that's just bad reporting. Susan Fani is press release queen for the Catholic League.

oh, that's disturbing. The church needs to get on that. You don't want someone claiming to be your spokesperson who you don't control.


Kathy A - Jul 16, 2008 12:47:37 pm PDT #8200 of 10003
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

The problem is that the various media outlets have dubbed Donohoe and his cronies at the Catholic League as de facto spokespersons for the Catholic Church--whenever there is something Catholic in the news, they're always the first people to show up on the 24-hour news networks, not Father gGiovanni from the Vatican.


Vortex - Jul 16, 2008 12:50:06 pm PDT #8201 of 10003
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Repeat: The church needs to get on that.


Theodosia - Jul 16, 2008 12:54:44 pm PDT #8202 of 10003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

IIRC, it's Capital-H Host if it's Catholic, because of the transubstantiation requiring the honorific.

Especially because some of my nearest and dearest are Catholic, I've tried to get some education about the RC, and I've come away with more respect than dismay, (though I can run you down a long list of stuff I don't agree with). Then again, with my low-Church Presby formative experiences, I may just be swayed by the candles and kneeling and incense and nice decorations.


JZ - Jul 16, 2008 12:55:06 pm PDT #8203 of 10003
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

The church needs to get on that.

Except that the church leadership, practically since the death of the pope who shepherded through all the Vatican II reforms, has been just the kind of ingrown social conservatives who are happy to let people like the League speak for them and not terribly eager to disabuse anyone of the notion that Donohue and his ilk are The Church.

So then, unfortunately, it falls on the laity to bitch about it and tell him to STFU, and since most of us are less media-whorishconnected than Donohue, it doesn't always work out so well.


Theodosia - Jul 16, 2008 12:56:32 pm PDT #8204 of 10003
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Voice of the Faithful should step up to the mike then.


Strega - Jul 16, 2008 1:01:05 pm PDT #8205 of 10003

Oh, I doubt she claimed to be from the diocese. I think a local news station misidentified her and it's gotten repeated each time the story gets recycled.

Also this

S&M Barbie Lashed By Public
is a genius headline.