This girl at school? She told me that gelatin is made from ground-up cow's feet and that every time you eat Jell-O there's some cow out there limping around without any feet. But I told her that I'm sure the cow is dead before they cut its feet off, right?

Dawn ,'Never Leave Me'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Jun 24, 2008 7:21:54 pm PDT #4758 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I guess it's just that most of the stuff you said, Hec, has a foot planted in academia.

It wasn't though. It was self-publishing chapbooks, and changing the focus to live readings, instead of publishing in the New Yorker. It was looking for connections with the burgeoning jazz culture - readings with live musicians. So it was very different from the poetry culture within Academe. Kenneth Rexroth and Robert Duncan and Jack Spicer in SF, all ran their own salons. Open, free to anybody, deeply learned (Rexroth was an autodidact) seminars on poetry and poetics.

Certainly they drew something from established literary canon and criticism but I think it's a distortion to emphasize that element over the more radical and innovative ways they forced their poetry into the world.


Burrell - Jun 24, 2008 7:24:30 pm PDT #4759 of 10003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Many HR departments for video game companies put up ads for things like Sound Designers but want them to have computer science degrees and be C++ programmers and the like. While those are nice skills, they are pretty ancillary to doing sound design for video games and disqualify a large quantity of brilliant artists who should be working in the market.

So they want programers, not sound engineers? That doesn't make sense to me.


DavidS - Jun 24, 2008 7:24:34 pm PDT #4760 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

most grad students in the humanities would consider me their inferior

Yeah but they're TOTALLY WRONG. C'mon now, you taught Jane Austen to your husband. You're qualified to speak about the early development of the novel.


§ ita § - Jun 24, 2008 7:28:07 pm PDT #4761 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In completely non-intellectual news my current anti-migraine meds are dysphoric, and I do not have words for how negative a psychological reaction I'm having. I don't know if I can do this either.


NoiseDesign - Jun 24, 2008 7:32:24 pm PDT #4762 of 10003
Our wings are not tired

So they want programers, not sound engineers? That doesn't make sense to me.

Yes, they are lumping sound under programming, and you don't even really want a sound engineer, you really do want a designer. Many sound designers kinda suck at the technical end of things, but if they are brilliant artists, then they are what you want.


Burrell - Jun 24, 2008 7:33:56 pm PDT #4763 of 10003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Yeah but they're TOTALLY WRONG. C'mon now, you taught Jane Austen to your husband. You're qualified to speak about the early development of the novel.

Well, thank you, and yeah, I've taught courses on the development of the novel. Sigh. I miss teaching literature sometimes.


DavidS - Jun 24, 2008 7:37:33 pm PDT #4764 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

and I do not have words for how negative a psychological reaction I'm having.

Oof. Your brain is problematic.


Burrell - Jun 24, 2008 7:37:34 pm PDT #4765 of 10003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Oh shit ita, that's no good. Is there any way you can shield yourself from your own reactions? I don't know what exactly, a warm bath, quiet dark room maybe?


§ ita § - Jun 24, 2008 7:48:06 pm PDT #4766 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am not sure how best to hide from myself.


Atropa - Jun 24, 2008 7:49:34 pm PDT #4767 of 10003
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Oh ita, I'm sorry.