and mother/father SHOULD come off birth certificates. parent parent parent.
Your point is valid. I hadn't thought of it that way, that the fear was equality. Didn't Kat make a similar point a few days ago?
No power in the 'verse can stop me.
River ,'War Stories'
Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Burrell - Jun 17, 2008 11:03:30 am PDT #3624 of 10003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Daisy Jane - Jun 17, 2008 11:05:10 am PDT #3625 of 10003
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."
And the meeting I just came out of? That's why my friends should not be jealous of my job.
msbelle - Jun 17, 2008 11:07:40 am PDT #3626 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
yep she did. The fear has been presented as the sanctity of marriage, but that seems to be (at least for some) a thinly veiled fear of men's position as boss being challenged.
bah - I would be worse than less of a person in these people's minds they do not deserve the energy of my rage. I can focus that energy into raising a beautiful compassionate boy who loves people not types.
flea - Jun 17, 2008 11:11:29 am PDT #3627 of 10003
information libertarian
Birth certificates are weird to me. In theory, they would seem to identify the biological parents of the child (though infidelity or donor gametes on the male side, or surrogacy or donor gametes on the female side, make this dodgy already). But am I right that if you adopt a child you can have their birth certificate amended (or re-issued) to include you as the parent? I think this is what the other woman I know with an Ethiopian-born son went through.
shrift - Jun 17, 2008 11:13:27 am PDT #3628 of 10003
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
Day 2 and I am so sick of documentation that I am glaring at all instructions, even the awesome one on vending machines about how you shouldn't accidentally kill yourself for those stuck Cheetos. I only have 7 more days to complete a rough draft of this manual and my motivation left the office early.
msbelle - Jun 17, 2008 11:17:17 am PDT #3629 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
I got a birth certificate listing me as the only parent from Ethiopia, and I think I will get another one issued from the US when I finish the readoption.
I do not think a certificate exists with mac's birth parent information, I do not think most children in Ethiopia get them when they are born.
Dana - Jun 17, 2008 11:23:14 am PDT #3630 of 10003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
I only have 7 more days to complete a rough draft of this manual and my motivation left the office early.
Money is good! Money = opportunities to stalk Gareth David Lloyd and hear him randomly talk about gay porn!
amych - Jun 17, 2008 11:24:54 am PDT #3631 of 10003
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Money = opportunities to stalk Gareth David Lloyd and hear him randomly talk about gay porn!
Ooh. I have 37 cents. Is that enough?
Fred Pete - Jun 17, 2008 11:27:22 am PDT #3632 of 10003
Ann, that's a ferret.
I agree that the question is what the purpose of the birth certificate is. If it's to identify the biological parents, gender-specific terms are appropriate. If it's to identify the legal parents, NSM.
shrift - Jun 17, 2008 11:30:48 am PDT #3633 of 10003
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
Money is good!
I know! I've been writing like mad, and I've accomplished quite a bit. I'm just at that point where there's only an hour left and I don't want to start a section that I can't finish. Bah. Guess I'll have to do it anyway. For the monies.