Angel: Yeah, I never told anyone about this, but I-I liked your poems. Spike: You like Barry Manilow.

'Hell Bound'


Natter 59: Dominate Your Face!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Susan W. - Jun 12, 2008 8:32:22 am PDT #2777 of 10003
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Anyone who thinks reading to children isn't sometimes work has not read the same board book to an 18 month old 30 times in one day. Especially if it isn't even one of the *good* board books (I'd happily read Jamberry or Hairy Maclary 30 times. Well, maybe 20 times.)

Sigh. Still happens with a 4-year-old. Somebody gave her this STUPID Christmas book called Annabelle's Wish about a calf who wants to be a reindeer, and she made us read it to her every night for two weeks in a row. Ugh.

Fortunately now I've gotten her into Mo Willems' pigeon books. Much more fun to read. And I figure she's almost old enough for chapter books read aloud. I can hardly wait to introduce her to Little House and Narnia and Trumpet of the Swan and All-of-a-Kind Family and...


megan walker - Jun 12, 2008 8:32:31 am PDT #2778 of 10003
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

From juliana's link:

Before you leave for the airport, look at yourself in the mirror, and think: Could I meet and IMPRESS someone who would change my life while wearing this? And if the answer is "No," change.

Good advice for any time you leave the house I'd say.


Burrell - Jun 12, 2008 8:35:30 am PDT #2779 of 10003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

In my marriage, I am less concerned with absolute equity and more concerned that we got each other's back, that we're there for each other and the kids.

So did they tally bill paying and bookkeeping into housework? I'm assuming they did.


msbelle - Jun 12, 2008 8:35:42 am PDT #2780 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

totally lame Kat and a cop out on the lead teacher and administration. I've had bosses like that, expect you to fix quickly something they have neglected for long stretches.

a color coded spreadsheet does sound crazy, but if either partner is a "keep track in my head" type, it is probably best. I am making a picture chart of tasks for mac at the suggestion of the therapist. They are not really chores, but I think he sees them as such. Ideally he will be able to start helping with household chores in the next year or so.


Kat - Jun 12, 2008 8:37:52 am PDT #2781 of 10003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

So did they tally bill paying and bookkeeping into housework? I'm assuming they did.

I think so.

a color coded spreadsheet does sound crazy, but if either partner is a "keep track in my head" type, it is probably best.

I'm not a keep track in my head person. But I am a love data person and I think it would be fascinating to have access to that data to see if my gut instinct is way off base.

I am making a picture chart of tasks for mac at the suggestion of the therapist. They are not really chores, but I think he sees them as such.

What kinds of tasks?


meara - Jun 12, 2008 8:37:56 am PDT #2782 of 10003

But what if you volunteer and find out that you're "is" or "of"?

What if the book is written in an ugly font?!!? (Whoah, you get to CHOOSE the font? That's just crazy talk!). But still. I, too, would feel out of context)

The beginning of the primary race was so friendly and supportive and happy-making! Which is why it was SO disappointing when it turned ugly. Because it didn't have to be that way

Exactly. In my ideal world, the primary is about a race to find the best person, but it's in pursuit of a higher goal--to represent the ideals of the Democratic party, and know that whichever of you wins the primary, you want ONE of you out there, running in November, trying to represent, etc etc. And that yes, you may have different messages, but that doesn't mean you can't have civilized debate and stand for some of the same things too. Etc, etc. I know that's all idealized and unlikely, but...Hell, I'd love to see even a little bit of that in the GENERAL election!!

I feel like chores in our house were very unequal growing up, but that was a lot due to the fact that my mom stayed home. So of course they were. And, my sister and I were older than my brother. So when we were old enough to do various chores, he was still too young. And by the time he was old enough to do some things, I was headed off to college...so there came a time, I'm sure, when he was doing ALL the dishes, and stuff...but then again, there were fewer dishes, by that point, because there were only him and mom and dad, and not five of us, anymore!!


Steph L. - Jun 12, 2008 8:42:46 am PDT #2783 of 10003
I look more rad than Lutheranism

But what if you volunteer and find out that you're "is" or "of"?

What if the book is written in an ugly font?!!? (Whoah, you get to CHOOSE the font? That's just crazy talk!)

The font choices are limited, though. No weirdass Braggadocio or anything.


msbelle - Jun 12, 2008 8:43:30 am PDT #2784 of 10003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

morning: get self dressed for school (including shoes), put breakfast dishes in sink, get school bag ready, brush teeth, put pajamas in bathroom or on bed

night: feed cats, put dinner dishes in sink, bath, brush teeth, pick up some toys from livingroom


Jesse - Jun 12, 2008 8:46:25 am PDT #2785 of 10003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

One of the families in an article keeps a color coded spreadsheet. First reaction: whoa way to keep score! That must cause conflicts. But then my second reaction was, "I wonder if we did that, if it really would look equitable through whatever lens we choose."

I once found a notebook my dad kept when my parents were having Trouble when I was little, and it was impressive -- you couldn't read it and not see how he was my primary caregiver. Which I'm pretty sure was the issue at hand. But reading it was kind of depressing. 6:45 make J breakfast, 7:00 feed J breakfast, 7:15 dress J, etc. etc.


Steph L. - Jun 12, 2008 8:46:35 am PDT #2786 of 10003
I look more rad than Lutheranism

w/r/t balance of chores: I'm always the one who vacuums, and whenever it starts to make me resentful, I remind myself that The Boy always takes care of dog poo removal from the backyard as well as always cleans the litter boxes (that one I had to just tell him I can't help with; between the cat hair and the dust generated by litter, my lungs would collapse, and that's no joke).

So really, that strikes an equitable balance, IMO.