But holding your own breath, you always stop before there would be a problem -- another person wouldn't know where that point is.
Unless you have it set up so that the choke-ee is able to tap/signal/something when they need to breathe. Given my allergies and history of asthma, not being able to breathe makes me panic and flip out like an animal (which, frankly, seems like the sensible reaction to not being able to breathe).
Interestingly -- do all y'all remember how Spike chokes Dru until she passes out in "Becoming 2"? And one of the writers -- maybe Marti? -- said that was a big mistake on her part, b/c of the whole thing where vamps don't actually need to breathe?
Well, the way Spike was choking her -- these are the things I pick up at BDSM conventions -- wasn't a method that necessarily blocks the windpipe; but it does block the carotid artery, and lack of oxygenated blood flow to the brain makes you pass out. And vamps *do* need blood, right? Including to the brain? So in that light, it wasn't a canonical mistake.
Although I'm 99% sure Marti -- or whoever the writer was -- didn't intend for the scene to be read as cutting off *blood flow* but rather cutting off *air,* which is a vamp faux pas.
And yes, now that I've gotten The Boy to watch BTVS, we've had a lengthy, geeky discussion on that specific scene, AND then he even brought it up at a demo on breath play, which made everyone else in the room give us the "Oh my god, YOU FREAKS" look, which is hard to do among a crowd of people who like to get their freak on.
Well, the way Spike was choking her -- these are the things I pick up at BDSM conventions -- wasn't a method that necessarily blocks the windpipe; but it does block the carotid artery, and lack of oxygenated blood flow to the brain makes you pass out. And vamps *do* need blood, right? Including to the brain? So in that light, it wasn't a canonical mistake.
Possibly, although they don't have a heartbeat, so I'm unclear how the blood is reaching the brain. Apparently the guys at least can direct their blood flow otherwise, though, so I guess there's something going on. (Or maybe they just all know how to cast Raise Dead.)
So Steph, what you're saying is that in the hierarchy of who looks down on who (remember the chart?) BDSM > Buffy fans? :-)
(And where do the toy boat fetishists fit in?)
I know that small children can breath-hold until they pass out if they want to, so "doing it yourself" is not always key to safety!
I know that small children can breath-hold until they pass out if they want to, so "doing it yourself" is not always key to safety!
Yikes!
I got to work all early, and only then remembered that my early-bird boss and early-bird big boss are out at a thing. I should have gone to the drugstore!
Well, the good thing it that when you pass out, if you were holding your breath yourself, you start breathing again.
At what point the observing parent starts breathing again, I don't know.
(Note: my own kids have never done this to the point of passing out, but Peter did hold his breath until he turned blue at one point, and we freaked the fuck out.)
An explosion will be carried out on a World War II bomb
::goes to Danger UXB place and re-childhood crushes on Anthony Andrews::
We had no water again this morning. Something I found out after my 90 minute Bikram yoga class. I was all set to stay home from work, and took the dog to the park to run her around when my DH showed up to tell me that the water had come back and I could shower and still get to work.
At least it's only a 1/2 day today.
Timelies all!
Still a little sore today(and laughing at some of the previous discussion doesn't help) but feeling better. Monday I should be back at work.
That wasn't very nice of DH.
What are people's weekend plans?
I'm going to Seattle. I suspect there may be cupcakes and flailing and possibly some squeeing. Plus brunch.
