After being explicitly warned not to cheat (this guy has a history), one of Joe's cadets was just thrown out of summer training for cheating.
His parents called Joe last night pleading for the kid to be given a second chance. Sadly, much of Joe's staff agrees with the kid and his parents. I spent most of our walk this morning reassuring Joe that he's not a huge asshole for insisting on enforcing the standards.
Sounds like he was already given a second chance.
Exactly. Too bad we don't have more of you here.
Heh. If Joe needs some reinforcement, have him call me. Let him know that the lurkers support him in email :)
Seriously, Stephanie. People who, in other areas of life might have very different views about certain things, agree with you and him 100%.
Ethics matter.
Yes, cheating - especially after having been caught and warned - is a big no-no. It defeats the purpose of whatever he's cheating at, he learns nothing except that he can get away with it, it punishes the other cadets, and may give some of them the idea that it's OK.
(*Insert caveat about how using video game cheats, but ONLY when not playing against anybody but the computer, may be exempt from said ethical mandates)
Ethics matter.
Do they? Honestly? I tend to think that ethics only matter to those who think they matter. I include myself in that category, but I do understand why a college-age student might honestly believe that ethics is an outmoded concept.
Do they? Honestly? I tend to think that ethics only matter to those who think they matter. I include myself in that category,
Well, they do to me. But that's kind of your point. I'm not sure how to respond, actually.
but I do understand why a college-age student might honestly believe that ethics is an outmoded concept.
I guess I don't. Maybe if you expand on why, and help me understand that mind set, I can come up with a better response.
I think I would say that ethics matter because of the ways society breaks down when they are not important. But I guess if you don't care about that, then that's not an argument that carries much weight.
but I do understand why a college-age student might honestly believe that ethics is an outmoded concept.
I don't. I see how they may get that message some times, but I don't see how they could completely dismiss it.
but I do understand why a college-age student might honestly believe that ethics is an outmoded concept
I have to say, I ran into this a lot as an older adult completing a bachelor's degree, but I don't understand it. Could you help this old fuddy-duddy understand where they're coming from? I make no guarentee I will understand, but I want to find out how these kids are thinking and if I think there's hope for them, yet.