On the shoes thing: I remember, when I was about six or so, my friend Scott and I would spend the social hour after Friday night services sliding in our slippery dress shoes on the wooden floor of the social hall. Run, put your weight on your toes, and slide across the rest of the floor. So, both of us were wearing shoes without rubber soles, and I think that was normal for kids at our synagogue then.
I see your uhhhhhhhhhhh and raise you a gnyeh.
Buffy ,'Potential'
Spike's Bitches 41: Thrown together to stand against the forces of darkness
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
Hil R. - Jul 30, 2008 7:26:24 am PDT #9252 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Calli - Jul 30, 2008 7:30:20 am PDT #9253 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
Sadly, much of Joe's staff agrees with the kid and his parents. I spent most of our walk this morning reassuring Joe that he's not a huge asshole for insisting on enforcing the standards.
If he lets the cheating cadet get away with it, Joe's punishing the cadets that didn't cheat. Why should their efforts be held to a higher standard than those of the cheater? If the cheating was on an exam, for example, why should someone who worked honestly have his grade considered comparable to the grade someone who cheated?
Fred Pete - Jul 30, 2008 7:43:34 am PDT #9254 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.
Stephanie, the rules are the rules. That's why they're rules.
Even if there are facts that might justify leniency, there's no right to a second chance.
Laura - Jul 30, 2008 7:48:04 am PDT #9255 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.
I spent most of our walk this morning reassuring Joe that he's not a huge asshole for insisting on enforcing the standards.
This and the situation with Vortex make me crazy.
What Fred Said!
I don't think either of the boys have dress shoes at the moment, but they are now big footed enough that they just grab dad's when required. My part of Florida may be a bit more casual than some places.
Stephanie - Jul 30, 2008 7:49:28 am PDT #9256 of 10001
Trust my rage
yeah, Fred, I agree and there are no special circumstances. I mean, people like him but so what? There is a huge problem with integrity here in the program and this is just one example. Anyway, I am glad that Joe and see it the same.
Vortex - Jul 30, 2008 7:58:17 am PDT #9257 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
After being explicitly warned not to cheat (this guy has a history), one of Joe's cadets was just thrown out of summer training for cheating.
His parents called Joe last night pleading for the kid to be given a second chance. Sadly, much of Joe's staff agrees with the kid and his parents. I spent most of our walk this morning reassuring Joe that he's not a huge asshole for insisting on enforcing the standards.
Sounds like he was already given a second chance.
Stephanie - Jul 30, 2008 8:00:03 am PDT #9258 of 10001
Trust my rage
Exactly. Too bad we don't have more of you here.
Vortex - Jul 30, 2008 8:04:43 am PDT #9259 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Heh. If Joe needs some reinforcement, have him call me. Let him know that the lurkers support him in email :)
Sean K - Jul 30, 2008 8:22:03 am PDT #9260 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Seriously, Stephanie. People who, in other areas of life might have very different views about certain things, agree with you and him 100%.
Ethics matter.
Toddson - Jul 30, 2008 8:30:27 am PDT #9261 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"
Yes, cheating - especially after having been caught and warned - is a big no-no. It defeats the purpose of whatever he's cheating at, he learns nothing except that he can get away with it, it punishes the other cadets, and may give some of them the idea that it's OK.