The money was too good. I got stupid.

Jayne ,'Ariel'


Spike's Bitches 41: Thrown together to stand against the forces of darkness  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Allyson - Jun 06, 2008 3:55:49 pm PDT #2308 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Boy Problem:

Horribly, painfully, amazingly beautiful boy. WORKS WITH ME.

Charming, bright, tall, funny.

Totally enamoured with girl who lives far away (whom he visits)

And he wants to be my friend. You know, like people who click in that friend way and it's all friend?

I can't be friends with someone who I want to make out with, though I like him well enough in that regard.

I hate coming to work because it distracts me all day.

And it makes me feel horrendously ugly. Why do gay men and amazingly beautiful men always seem to want funny fat allyson to hang out with? It's friggin killing me.

That's my problem. Can't someone shut off this horrible feeling so I don't pine every three hours?


§ ita § - Jun 06, 2008 4:06:48 pm PDT #2309 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why do gay men and amazingly beautiful men always seem to want funny fat allyson to hang out with? It's friggin killing me.

Lots of people want to hang out with you, Allyson. It's because you're electrically charged, because you're sweet and kind and bright and sharp and funny. That's a silly question to ask.

I have no idea why he's not hung up on you. I'm the last person to talk to in that regard. It's not like guys get hung up on me either. But even though you're having pangs of desire you mustn't let it make you feel ugly, because that's not what it's about. Completely not. Life just kinda sucks in that regard. Sometimes too often (c'mon--look at the love lives of some people you cherish dear to your heart--is it a value judgment that some of your closest friends are terminally single? Does it make us ugly too?).


Cashmere - Jun 06, 2008 4:24:08 pm PDT #2310 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Allyson, I think ita's right about disassociating your self-image from what this guy (or any other guy feels). I know it's not easy.

And I'm certainly no good source of advice (I am much relieved I am not single because I have no doubt I'd be in the same position. I had a guy I humiliated myself for years ago who, after I asked him directly, told me, "I've tried, I just can't love you that way.")

But you're funny and a good friend to have. Your validation should be internal. I wish I could shut off the inner demons that make you feel unattractive.

The question is, is it more distracting to pine over him, not being friends or is it better to be friends with him and hope the desire to make out goes away. I always opted for the latter, myself.


beth b - Jun 06, 2008 4:25:50 pm PDT #2311 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

kick that voice to the curb, Allyson. If someone spoke about one of your friends that way, you'd be pissed.

Obviously, you are fun to be around. I know you are smart and funny. That's why people want to be around you.

As for the pretty boy, he can't see you because there is a girl in his eye. he may never see you. ( boys are not always smart) However, he won't ever see you if you don't see him.

ION, why do our shoes insist on living in the living room?


NoiseDesign - Jun 06, 2008 4:32:20 pm PDT #2312 of 10001
Our wings are not tired

I have absolutely no desire to fire up ProTools and edit. Yet, that's what I need to do.


Allyson - Jun 06, 2008 4:36:10 pm PDT #2313 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

ita, I think our friends are terminally single because they sort of like it that way. I'm terminally single because I'm me. I wish I could just sort of crumble into dust, most days.


Tom Scola - Jun 06, 2008 4:51:37 pm PDT #2314 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

I'm terminally single because I believe I deserve to be single.


megan walker - Jun 06, 2008 5:12:05 pm PDT #2315 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I'm terminally single because I'm me.

I'm terminally single because I believe I deserve to be single.

These are both incredibly wrongheaded and craxy.


Fay - Jun 06, 2008 5:13:08 pm PDT #2316 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Allyson, you and me should get liquored up and go to Vegas. Or,actually, to Cairo, where we would both find ourselves treated like sex goddesses the moment we stepped off the 'plane.

(Most days I do not wish I could crumble into dust, because most days I don't think about it. Denial - it's where I live. But presently there has indeed been a fair bit of that. So - yeah. I feel you, love.)

Tom, do you want to be single? Or are you resigned to it? (...or did you murder your last girlfriend? Is this some kind of karma for past misdeeds?) Because, you know, you're awesome. And sufficiently cute that I was far too shy to say more than 'hello' at the F2F.

...soshul skillz: Im doin em wrong.


Hil R. - Jun 06, 2008 5:18:09 pm PDT #2317 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I'm single because I'm too socially inept to talk to people.