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Anyone else want to weigh in on the decision besides Zarek and me?

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This game just wants to take all my cards from me. ALL my cards. *grumble* Never enough booz- cards for Salty. It's not fair. *sniff*

Okay, done whining now.

Aaaaaaanyway. IIRC Zarek wasted a Y5 on an IC when it would have passed us a check awhile ago, which has made me suspicious (what a clever way of avoiding helping on a skill check). On the other hand--damn, the Cylons are playing it close, because no one's done anything SUPER suspicious yet. I've got a few ideas but nothing damning. Zarek's also been helpful, and I don't know if taking the presidency away from him would be the wisest thing to do, especially if he is still human.

There's also the issue of population versus morale, and as noted, losing morale at this stage would be worse.

Also, as BT noted, I can always choose to take the Presidency later, because I am Tigh. So even if I don't take the Presidency now and Zarek does something suspicious, I can declare martial law on my next turn. Now, I can only do that once per game, but that ability is there.

So I am inclined right now to take the hit and lose the population instead of the morale and piss off Zarek. (What IS the fluff reason for the population loss here? The admiral gets mad and starts a bar fight?)

BUT I would also like to see what others say as well.

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Huh. I didn't realize drunks could have intellectual stupors as well.

:: stumble to the left... stumble to the right ::

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I've also been suspicious of Zarek since the Y5 incident happened so I'm not in favor of giving him the presidency.

Um, Zarek has the presidency.

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See, this is what I get for posting right after I got home from the hospital and why I shouldn't be allowed to dabble in politics.

My main point was backing up that I have the same suspicions regarding playing the Y5 card right before the check, that smells like a toaster move to me.

Beyond that, ignore me, nothing to see here. I'll just keep flying this Viper.

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Frankly, I'm suspicious of almost everyone, but the President is not first on my list, and I certainly haven't seen enough to warrant a change of regime.

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I feel the problem is that it isn't that long since we reached the Sleeper Phase. No one's really had enough opportunity to prove themselves one way or the other.

I've previously stated that if we had a Cylon pre-Sleeper, I think the Admiral's most likely. I feel better about that 3-Distance jump helped though (although that was a location Zarek had scouted and left on top, so the Admiral knew there was someone ready to accuse him if he didn't take it).

Zarek's been very generous with interrupts, and with perhaps not much to show for them. Now, I wouldn't have played a 5-value card as an interrupt (without very good cause), and it's true that playing valuable cards at unimportant moments can be a clever means of soft sabotage, and certainly the Elections Loom check was something of a cock-up. Still, it's quite possible he was genuinely being helpful. (With the skill check, don't forget that we wouldn't have known how bad Destiny was without the IC. I'm honestly more concerned that we still jumped right in after seeing Destiny without asking if we could make it, though I see more enthusiasm than sabotage there.)

I think it's entirely possible that either one of them's a Cylon. Or neither, or even both. That was helpful, wasn't it? Ok, something a bit more helpful: I distrust Pradmirals. If Zarek turns out to be a toaster, Tigh's ability provides us with a defence. If the Admiral's an Appliance-American, then there's a Quorum card, Encourage Mutiny, that can pull the Admiralty off him. If the same person holds both titles and they're a Cylon, they're just that much more dangerous.

I vote for leaving the Presidency with Zarek. Without more to go on re loyalties, I'd rather play it safe.

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Huh. I didn't realize drunks could have intellectual stupors as well.

Excuse me? Was there something terribly stupid about my post?

*shakes head* Anyway. On further consideration, I think it makes sense to take the card hit and lose the population.

That is my decision. I discard 2 P1s.

Billytea, part of your reasoning about my being a Cylon has to do with the fact that we only went distance 1 on the first jump. (The other part was that I didn't play XOs when you told me do, and I've explained my thoughts on that more than anyone wants to hear.) I will note that, regarding the distance issue: in my experience (I don't know the exact numbers, I don't count cards and don't own the game myself), there are far more distance 0, 1, and 2 cards in the pile than distance 3 cards (For the record? That Distance 3 card? First distance 3 card I have ever drawn ever in the history of my playing this board game.) It was the first distance draw done--the likelihood of 2 low draws was decent to say the least. And the card I chose got us a chance for fuel, when we had recently taken a hit to fuel. I stand by that I chose the best card of the two that I drew. You may choose to not believe me, but I find your reasoning is flimsy at best.

I may have not always made the best decisions tactically, but I cannot recall anything I've done that has resulted in poorer circumstances for this crew (or at least picked the lesser of two evils when faced with a difficult decision).

I realize this probably comes off as more defensive toward the players than I intend. I've had a bad day and I apologize if my tone is unnecessarily terse.

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I will also point out that the Admiral XO'd me so that I could work the Press Room.