What happens if you turn a bag of holding inside out?
Can the bag contain itself?
Or, perhaps it is like Wonko the Sane's house "The Outside of the Asylum," where the inside is the outside.
You never know if a girl's gonna say 'yes', or if she's gonna laugh in your face and pull out your still-beating heart and crush it into the ground with her heel.
Xander ,'Help'
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dcp - Oct 27, 2009 5:28:06 pm PDT #4809 of 26134
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.
billytea - Oct 27, 2009 5:29:19 pm PDT #4810 of 26134
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
What happens if you turn a bag of holding inside out?
I actually find myself curious about what would happen when you put it the right way around again.
Sean K - Oct 27, 2009 6:19:18 pm PDT #4811 of 26134
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Crap bthought I sent COs. I'll send them tonight when I get home.
StuntHusband - Oct 27, 2009 7:03:25 pm PDT #4812 of 26134
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark
I can say with a great deal of certainty that Wizards of the Coast would say "you can't turn a bag of holding inside out". There's nothing in the DMG to prevent a DM from ruling otherwise - in which case it could be anything.
Personally, it gives me a headache thinking about it; any player who tried it in a game I ran would either simply fail, or hand me their character sheet and therefore make a new character. "Oh, sorry - that experiment went seriously awry. I hope you weren't too attached to him/her..."
Cuz I'm an evil bastard that way.
Kalshane - Oct 27, 2009 7:20:14 pm PDT #4813 of 26134
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
I'd probably save myself a headache and simply rule that they now have an inside-out bag. Any contents of the bag are now scattered on the ground around whoever turned it inside out. If the put it back the right way, it works again.
Though if I wanted to be mean and they had anything with sharp corners in the bag, there could be a chance the bag gets ruptured as they turn it inside out, destroying the bag and scattering a random amount of its contents into the Ethereal Plane. (Was it the Astral Plane that the stuff got dumped to in the case of a rupture.)
Of course, if a player really wanted to give their DM a headache, they could turn their Bag of Holding inside out and then drop it in a Portable Hole.
billytea - Oct 27, 2009 7:29:34 pm PDT #4814 of 26134
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
See, if they turn it inside out, then topologically speaking, pretty much everything is now in the bag. When they turn it back again, is everything still in the bag?
JoeCrow - Oct 27, 2009 7:31:02 pm PDT #4815 of 26134
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson
Of course, if a player really wanted to give their DM a headache, they could turn their Bag of Holding inside out and then drop it in a Portable Hole.
Isn't that where Spheres of Annihilation come from?
Kalshane - Oct 27, 2009 7:36:09 pm PDT #4816 of 26134
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
See, if they turn it inside out, then topologically speaking, pretty much everything is now in the bag. When they turn it back again, is everything still in the bag?
Well, by that logic turning the bag inside out would instantly destroy it, as "Everything" weighs more than the carrying capacity of even the most powerful Bag of Holding.
Isn't that where Spheres of Annihilation come from?
No. I think they're generated when two "rebel loner drow" encounter each other and the sheer volume of angst around them coalesces into a singularity.
billytea - Oct 27, 2009 7:40:23 pm PDT #4817 of 26134
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Well, by that logic turning the bag inside out would instantly destroy it, as "Everything" weighs more than the carrying capacity of even the most powerful Bag of Holding.
I find myself ok with this, and am now picturing a new creation myth. Something about quantum lint.
Sean K - Oct 27, 2009 9:54:35 pm PDT #4818 of 26134
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
BSG
BT is checking my math, but I believe I play five cards.