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I KNEW IT. I HATE YOU SO MUCH.

Hee. Yeah. Sorry about that.

Ooh, such suspense and terror for you!

It was scary!

That's a crazy awesome going down guns ablaze hypothetical scenario.

The Centurions were effective because they feel so menacing. But the continual morale loss was the real killer here. It kept your resources taxed enough to where you had to keep trying for stuff that dropped it, but you kept losing it, so you had to keep spending cards, etc.

Drew, you're right about the card drain. I think that was what we did best.

And -t, you played Tigh really well. You made good use of the Pradmiralty.

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Putting my oar in to say I'd be interested in playing next time. I don't have the physical game, however.

Good stuff, we'd be happy to have you. I do encourage people to buy the game (and several people have off the back of these games), but it's not necessary. I can cover whatever you need to know. If you've been following along with this game, you'll have a feel for the game flow.

You DID spike it! It WAS a one and one! Oh man.

That really threw your Destiny count off. At one stage you emailed me saying that you'd worked out Destiny was down to 2 Blue cards; in fact, neither of them were Blue.

I spent most of the game hoarding at least two repair cards. At one point I was wondering if we could pull off a cylon victory without ever actually revealing as cylons.

It's certainly possible. The very first PBF game on boardgamegeek, a Cylon Boomer and Helo won without revealing, or even being discovered until the final round (where they were both ready to use their OPG to kill Fuel).

It felt like we also did a pretty good job of keeping Team Human starved for cards. That was one of my main reasons for not revealing. It kept meaning that you had to divide your attention and worry how badly a spiked check was going to burn you.

Oh, yes. At one point you had 17 cards between you to the humans' 3. That was why Morale kept getting hammered. It keeps coming up on crisis cards and skill checks, and you could never defend against them. The worst turn, 3.5, saw you lose 1 Morale from Cally shooting Starbuck IN THE FACE!, 1 Morale from failing Loss of a Friend, and 1 last point from Iron Will after Cally Quick Fixed the check into negatives.

There was a turn that, if I had managed to get that godsdamn Political Prowess (WHY DID THE CYLON GET IT NO FAIR)

Because she drew three times as many Yellow as anyone else, even on a regular day, let alone when she was pulling extra cards from Quorum plays. Just a suggestion: it may not be a high-return strategy to base your play on the prospect of drawing a single particular card out of 30. (Likewise, trying to hold onto the most common card in the deck, in order to starve the other players, will probably not be too successful.)

Tory is a card drawing machine, but the draws themselves were crazy!

So true! This was her hand at one point, for instance:

Support the People 1
Consolidate Power 1
Investigative Committee 3
Investigative Committee 3
Investigative Committee 3
Investigative Committee 4
Preventative Policy 5
Executive Order 2
Declare Emergency 3
State of Emergency 6
Launch Scout 2
Strategic Planning 4
Maximum Firepower 4

Even on her last draw, she pulled a 3 and a 6 (the BoB that Kat had played just three turns prior).

And -t, you played Tigh really well. You made good use of the Pradmiralty.

This is true. I've noticed it's quite common in these games for the Quorum to get largely ignored. Not the case this game (Tory had an added incentive to push it, of course.)

It was unbelievable! I spent half the game trying to figure out how not to play cards! I had a ton of Support the Peoples and that State of Emergency really could have helped Team Human. Too bad I wasn't on it!

And I almost played it anyway just for the fun of it, when I remembered that Tigh still had Execute and would kill me with the turn I'd given him. Ha!

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And I almost played it anyway just for the fun of it, when I remembered that Tigh still had Execute and would kill me with the turn I'd given him.

I wanted to see you play it on the turn you tried to brig Tigh. I have no idea whether it would've been better for the humans or the Cylons, but it would have been excellent either way.

Incidentally, note that if you play an SoE, you yourself take the first action. YOu could have used your action to reveal before he got the chance to execute you. (Or do what you did, try to escape the Brig. You were very unlucky with that check, Destiny was -6 against you.)

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That really threw your Destiny count off. At one stage you emailed me saying that you'd worked out Destiny was down to 2 Blue cards; in fact, neither of them were Blue.

Dammit! Wait, neither of them?? Seriously? I'm so confused now. I think those were two different Destiny decks. Ah well.

The very first PBF game on boardgamegeek, a Cylon Boomer and Helo won without revealing, or even being discovered until the final round

Wow! Did they spike a lot of checks and not get caught or something? Or not help? I mean, Team Human KNEW they had two Cylons after Sleeper, and they still didn't find them?

Just a suggestion: it may not be a high-return strategy to base your play on the prospect of drawing a single particular card out of 30.

We were starved for cards. There was NO OTHER WAY we could do anything! We had to arrest Tory to get her in the brig and execute her to kill her.

You were very unlucky with that check, Destiny was -6 against you.

That was pretty great.

This is true. I've noticed it's quite common in these games for the Quorum to get largely ignored. Not the case this game

Yeah, I've never seen the Quorum be so useful before. We lived and died on that Quorum, once Tigh got a hold of it. When I was Cylon Baltar, I didn't want to play Quorum cards, so when Tory actually played some, I figured she was human. I realized later she was really playing them to get more cards.

And I almost played it anyway just for the fun of it

It seems like a fun card! I wanted to play it sometime! Of course, once it was clear we had two Cylons, I didn't really want to play it, but it would have been fun before that. Or terrible. Unless we were all human. Or mostly human. Then it would be good.

Man, remember that time Tigh took the Presidency? That was like the best move we ever did.

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Cylon Tory was awesome that way. When Tigh took the Presidency, he was all anxious to see what superawesome Quorum cards I'd been holding back, but there weren't any! I'd been playing the Quorum straight, and just getting lucky, like, I bumped Morale up a point, but you lost two Morale that turn anyway, so it ended up being a net loss, but I still looked human.

I have no idea whether it would've been better for the humans or the Cylons, but it would have been excellent either way.

Yeah, I really should have. I was strongly considering it. And I botched the brigging anyway, by playing CO's and not noticing how play went down afterwards (because in real life I was wrangling volunteers) so it probably would have been a great time to use the card. Since I had a Cylon partner, and the humans were all card limited, I think it may have played our way.

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Dammit! Wait, neither of them?? Seriously? I'm so confused now. I think those were two different Destiny decks. Ah well.

Yep. If I have my count right, they were both played into Loss of a Friend on turn 3.5.

Wow! Did they spike a lot of checks and not get caught or something? Or not help? I mean, Team Human KNEW they had two Cylons after Sleeper, and they still didn't find them?

Not only did no one suspect, they threw Roslin in the Brig and made Boomer President. Adama and Roslin spent almost the whole game convinced the other one was a Cylon.

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We were starved for cards. There was NO OTHER WAY we could do anything! We had to arrest Tory to get her in the brig and execute her to kill her.

Sure you could.

1. Try to brig them anyway, force them to play their cards.

2. (What wound up working for you) Work the Quorum. It has 2 Arrest Orders, and you can cycle through that deck a lot faster than you could the Politics deck.

Finally, if you really want to draw lots of Yellow (and there are other good reasons to do it, like ICs and Support the People) - Press Room.

My love for Red Dead Redemption continues to grow. I just noticed that my horse tells me when others horses are near. It didn't sink in until today, but he made the noise that means other horses are around, then we came up over a rise and they were right there. I'm not positive but I bet I'll start noticing this was a purposeful design choice. If so: well done Game Developers for including such a teensy wonderful detail.

This thread moves slow when we ain't fighting cylons.

I'd like to share a (imo) clever thing I did last night running D&D.

One player flaked out and we're at a nexus in my campaign where the party has several decisions to make and I didn't want them to be made without the whole party present so I sent the reamaining players into a dream where they had to fight symbolic representations of their character struggles.

Our cleric used Religion to determine that they were experiencing something akin to a religious vision but then our Rogue used Streetwise and explained this it was actually much more like a narcotic hallucination. At the end they woke up and I gave them a wisdom check to see how much they remembered and then assigned a percentage of the XP based on how well they did on that check. Everyone gushed at me & I got to play around with dreams. (At one point a character killed off a grimlock minion whose face turned into that of his missing girlfriend who said, "don't forget your towel" before collapsing in his arms)

Forgot to give a shout out to the Dungeon Delve book for helping me plan a session in 20 minutes.