Dawn: I think a date should be in a real fancy restaurant, then champagne at a night club with a floor show, then ballroom dancing. Joyce: Unfortunately, we're not dating in a movie from the thirties.

'Get It Done'


The Great Write Way, Act Three: Where's the gun?

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Scrappy - Sep 03, 2008 8:30:00 am PDT #861 of 6681
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Most writers tend to hate what they write while in process, Allyson, that's one of the reasons writing is so damn hard. Early drafts involve endlessely dealing with one's limitations and it's frustrating and depressing as hell. At least I always find it to be so, and so have most writers I know. Good writers--like you.

What I think you need to work on is your tendency to make hating on the writing to hating on yourself. You need to work on boundaries, since that the work you do is separate from you and not a referendum on you as a person. Your first drafts will always suck and you will always question their validity and whether your story/words/ideas/ are any good--that's part of the process. Ice fishing requires hours in the cold, writing requires doubts and frustration. The time spent in the cold does not make the ice fisherman a bad person, and the doubts don't make you one either.


Laga - Sep 03, 2008 8:32:36 am PDT #862 of 6681
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I've read poorly written (published!) stuff that the authors should have felt ashamed of and this isn't it. I know the voices in your head can be hard to ignore but are the voices outside, those telling you that your story is engaging and well written, are they helping?


Connie Neil - Sep 03, 2008 8:42:21 am PDT #863 of 6681
brillig

If you do decide it's a failure--which it doesn't seem to be--I found a comforting quote:

"Failure after long perseverance is much grander than never to have a striving good enough to be called a failure." - George Eliot -


Amy - Sep 03, 2008 8:46:04 am PDT #864 of 6681
Because books.

It hurts that you're ashamed of it, Allyson. You really shouldn't be. I think Scrappy is, as usual, very wise.

Everyone wants to be better, and everyone has doubts, and everyone struggles to translate what's in their heads to the page, and honestly, that's normal. That's GOOD. (It's the Cliff Burns of the world who think every word they write is gold, and generally have no perspective or objectivity OR willingness to grow and learn.)

I just wish I had some way to convince you to have fun with this. To let it come, and go back to it later to revise and tweak and reshape.


Allyson - Sep 03, 2008 8:52:24 am PDT #865 of 6681
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

It's helpful to be able to be able to see it reflected back at me through other people.

I don't know how to separate me from the work, as Scrappy says, and as Tim keeps telling me. It feels like trying to separate my toes from my feet.

I know I don't want to do it anymore, but I'm obligated to finish, which means three more chapters of ripping veins out of my arms....she says with no small amount of melodrama.


Ginger - Sep 03, 2008 9:03:04 am PDT #866 of 6681
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

"Writing is easy. All you do is stare at a blank sheet of paper until drops of blood form on your forehead." -Gene Fowler

I think if you just love every word that drops from your fingertips to the page, you're Anne Rice.


SailAweigh - Sep 03, 2008 11:28:29 am PDT #867 of 6681
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Allyson, I hope the last three chapters go really fast for you, ripping out veins sounds uncomfortable in the extreme.

For those of you who thought I'd left my cookie jar drabbles behind, this follows on right after the very first one I wrote SailAweigh "The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time..." Feb 3, 2008 8:03:41 am PST:

Hat Trick

"Got any spare change, buddy?"

The man glanced at her and then down at her tip jar. Face averted, he entered the McDonald's next to her. Another puffed up high-hatter, eating cheap before blowing half his paycheck in the bars lining State Street. Third one that night, who couldn't even spare a quarter. Her breath puffed out in disgust. She bent over to count the coins in the jar, when a bag was thrust toward her. Off balance, she clutched it to her chest, the smell of warm burgers and fries drifting to her nose.

She met his eyes. "Thanks."


Ginger - Sep 03, 2008 1:00:51 pm PDT #868 of 6681
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Allyson, here's something to read when you start thinking you can't write: [link]


Barb - Sep 04, 2008 10:14:14 am PDT #869 of 6681
“Not dead yet!”

BTW, Sail, meant to say I really loved how you turned that on its ear. It was lovely. And I could just smell the burgers and fries and damned if I didn't want some Mickey D's fries in that moment.


Toddson - Sep 04, 2008 10:18:57 am PDT #870 of 6681
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Barb, I'd wandered through your LJ at one point. I have a candidate for your cabana boys.