Ah, the pitter patter of tiny feet in huge combat boots. Shut up!

Mal ,'War Stories'


The Great Write Way, Act Three: Where's the gun?

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Wolfram - Jul 30, 2008 5:43:13 am PDT #430 of 6687
Visilurking

Actually I agree with CP here. Susan, do you even need a pronoun at all?

Wilcox snorted. “Better you than me, sir.”

“Corporal, you must show respect for him as an officer.”

Although you lose the mild chiding, I think it's picked up in context.


SailAweigh - Jul 30, 2008 5:54:17 am PDT #431 of 6687
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I like Wolfram's idea there, Susan. Also, I feel as long as a name (or title, something to help us differentiate) is used every 3-4 statements, I'd be good with that. Just so I'm not left counting the paragraphs to try and figure out who said what.


Jesse - Jul 30, 2008 5:58:12 am PDT #432 of 6687
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I find myself counting the paragraphs fairly often, so you can never attribute quotes by name too much for me!


Susan W. - Jul 30, 2008 6:36:36 am PDT #433 of 6687
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Well, it's not so much about this specific instance as the general principle of the thing. She thinks there's a Rule of Pronouns where any pronoun has to belong to the last person of that gender referred to by name; I think it doesn't matter as long as the context makes it clear who the pronoun refers to.


Wolfram - Jul 30, 2008 8:31:38 am PDT #434 of 6687
Visilurking

I'm so not grammar-rule guy, but I can see why that whole pronoun thing is a good rule of thumb. When I read, pronouns whose attribution are not completely obvious throw me out of the story.

Of course I think context and literary license trump any and all grammar rules.


Susan W. - Jul 30, 2008 9:05:12 am PDT #435 of 6687
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Of course I think context and literary license trump any and all grammar rules.

Me too. I just hope my CP will eventually accept that I'm not going to follow the rule as rigidly as she'd like and lay off a bit, just like I've stopped adding commas to our fellow CP V's work and she's stopped taking them out of mine, and how when CP S told me she was using anachronistic terms for sex on purpose because she doesn't like the period-appropriate ones, I stopped throwing the OED at her over every "sex" and "make love."

You know, it's possible we get a little too nitpicky in my critique group at times... But I promise, we do talk a lot more about plot, character, story structure, and other such big picture stuff.


Burrell - Jul 30, 2008 9:36:05 am PDT #436 of 6687
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I think nit picky is impt too. I want to know what others think needs correction in my writing, even if I choose not to follow it. Sometimes those little nit picks can change the way I write in a wonderful way.


Susan W. - Jul 30, 2008 9:46:04 am PDT #437 of 6687
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Yeah, I only mind the nitpicky when it's the same thing again and again and again. And even then, I do understand--after all, deep down, I still think that V's comma usage pattern leads to run-on sentences and that S could find a way to write sex sexily in Regency vocabulary.


Burrell - Jul 31, 2008 7:40:13 am PDT #438 of 6687
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

So, um, not sure about the etiquette of asking for a beta, but I have a partial draft of a story I'm working on and I've hit well, not an impass, but a point at which I need to decide what to do next. As in, is this a short story? a novella? If someone is willing to read it, I'd be grateful.


Amy - Jul 31, 2008 7:43:45 am PDT #439 of 6687
Because books.

I'd be happy to read it, Burrell. Profile address is good.