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The Great Write Way, Act Three: Where's the gun?

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


sumi - Jul 26, 2008 2:55:19 pm PDT #420 of 6681
Art Crawl!!!

Woo hoo, Barb!


Amy - Jul 26, 2008 4:44:28 pm PDT #421 of 6681
Because books.

Barb's unstuck! Pass it on!

(Also? YAY!)


Susan W. - Jul 26, 2008 5:04:08 pm PDT #422 of 6681
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Woohoo, Barb!


SailAweigh - Jul 26, 2008 5:39:59 pm PDT #423 of 6681
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Yay, Barb!! That's got to feel pretty darn good!


Barb - Jul 26, 2008 5:50:17 pm PDT #424 of 6681
“Not dead yet!”

Thank you, thank you, thank you, guys and sail, I'll let you know after I go back and read it. Probably tomorrow. I'm too a'skeered to, right now. *g*


Lee - Jul 27, 2008 12:32:39 pm PDT #425 of 6681
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

The play challenge is now closed.

The new challenge is shelf space.


Susan W. - Jul 29, 2008 1:40:22 pm PDT #426 of 6681
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

One of my CPs keeps rapping my wrists over a pronoun issue that I don't think is a real issue. (She's one of the most grammatically precise people I've ever met.)

According to the CP, a pronoun must ALWAYS refer to the last person of that gender named in the text. E.g., I had the following snippet of dialogue in the excerpt I sent for critique this week:

Wilcox snorted. “Better you than me, sir.”

“Corporal,” he chided mildly, “you must show respect for him as an officer.”

Leaving aside whether this is well-written or not (it's rough draft, and one of the things I always do on rewrite is make my dialogue attribution a bit more subtle and artful), in my mind it's sufficiently clear that the speaker in the second paragraph is not Wilcox, but someone who's having a conversation with him. And since there are only two people in the scene, I think the pronoun stands alone. But my CP disagrees and says I really need the second character's name. I can see her point, technically, but stylistically something seems awkward about naming characters over and over again. In a scene with two men or two women interacting, I feel like I have to use their names so much just for clarity. So when I can use a pronoun without confusing the reader, I feel like I should do so even when it's technically incorrect.

Thoughts? This is an ongoing issue, and I'm starting to get snarly when I open her critiques and see all those pronouns replaced with names.


Ailleann - Jul 29, 2008 1:55:41 pm PDT #427 of 6681
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Since dialogue breaks a line every time there's a new speaker, to me it seems pretty obvious that it's the second speaker.


Susan W. - Jul 29, 2008 6:57:33 pm PDT #428 of 6681
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Thanks, Ailleann. I think I'll just ignore her on that issue unless other CPs have problems with specific instances.

In other writing news, I've been blogging my notes from the workshops at PNWC: [link]


javachik - Jul 29, 2008 10:40:53 pm PDT #429 of 6681
Our wings are not tired.

I think sometimes people forget that you're writing dialogue that has to make sense for the people involved in the scene who are actually speaking. Of course you don't want to confuse a reader, but the reader will also be distracted by reading names in a situation where the speakers wouldn't use proper names.