Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


The Great Write Way, Act Three: Where's the gun?

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Tom Scola - Nov 12, 2010 5:30:21 am PST #3711 of 6693
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

James Frey's Fiction Factory

In exchange for delivering a finished book within a set number of months, the writer would receive $250 (some contracts allowed for another $250 upon completion), along with a percentage of all revenue generated by the project, including television, film, and merchandise rights—30 percent if the idea was originally Frey’s, 40 percent if it was originally the writer’s. The writer would be financially responsible for any legal action brought against the book but would not own its copyright. Full Fathom Five could use the writer’s name or a pseudonym without his or her permission, even if the writer was no longer involved with the series, and the company could substitute the writer’s full name for a pseudonym at any point in the future. The writer was forbidden from signing contracts that would “conflict” with the project, without specifying what that might be. The writer would not have approval over his or her publicity, pictures, or biographical materials. There was a $50,000 penalty if the writer publicly admitted to working with Full Fathom Five without permission.

Some writers consulted lawyers; some just signed on the dotted line. “It’s a crappy deal but a great opportunity” is how one writer put it.

I'm pretty sure that future generations will regard that contract as James Frey's greatest piece of writing. It manages to combine the worst aspects of spec work along with the worst of work-for-hire.


Typo Boy - Nov 12, 2010 6:45:11 pm PST #3712 of 6693
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Weren't some of the pulp series written factory style? Doc Savage or one of those series, where the head writer would outline a plot, and then a stable of writers would write the story, one chapter per writer? Then on to the next novel in the series?

And I'll bet whoever I'm thinking of did not invent the writing "factory" system.


Tom Scola - Nov 13, 2010 1:48:18 am PST #3713 of 6693
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

It's not an uncommon practice, it's just that the terms of Frey's contract are outrageous. Rather than a fixed rater per-word, the writers here are basically getting paid in vague promises of future revenue.


Ginger - Nov 13, 2010 3:32:55 am PST #3714 of 6693
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

The Stratemeyer syndicate [link] which gave us the Hardy Boys, Nancy Drew, the Happy Hollisters, ad infinitum, is the most notable example. I'll note they paid $125 flat fee per book in the 1920s, dropping to $75 for most authors during the Depression.

Legend has it that Edward Stratemeyer, who wrote hundreds of books, started each book Monday morning and finished it on Friday.


Barb - Nov 13, 2010 6:23:10 am PST #3715 of 6693
“Not dead yet!”

Even James Patterson's current machine is more ethical than Frey's. He at least gives his co-authors billing on the jacket covers.


erikaj - Nov 13, 2010 7:44:21 am PST #3716 of 6693
Always Anti-fascist!

I would never work for him anyway...he proved himself to be a lying sack of shit. I'd rather be *surprised* at least.Frey, not Patterson.


Gudanov - Nov 15, 2010 3:36:34 am PST #3717 of 6693
Coding and Sleeping

I think I've almost got the rules for when to use 'an' in front of a consonant and 'a' in front of a vowel. Tricksy grammar.


Laga - Nov 15, 2010 6:21:45 am PST #3718 of 6693
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

hippocampus - Nov 15, 2010 8:12:57 am PST #3719 of 6693
not your mom's socks.

Drive-by Drabble ...

Bacchanal
"Kill it!" she screamed, her face fierce and her brown curls blowing back with the force of her attack.

"Cut it down!" Yelled her blonde neighbor, fingers reaching for entrails.

The group of young girls began chanting, at first jumbled, their many words for hate and destruction mingling. Soon, one word came through, "death." "Death!" "Rip its horn off!" Side chants, only, with the drumbeat of death roiling the stockade beneath the hapless victim.

It was pink, and jeweled, as unicorns must be. It stared back at them placidly, the noose tightening around its neck. The girls were screaming, their dresses twisting around their knees as they jumped and cried for murder. There was no quarter given, no moment of thought for beauty or mercy. They knew what they wanted, and they wanted to beat the fragile creature down, and see its guts spilled.

Their faces and voices were gutteral, wild and abandoned. They were sped on by sugar and desperation. They beat the pink unicorn to death, and ate its insides. Their parents looked on proudly and cheered.


Typo Boy - Nov 15, 2010 8:16:34 am PST #3720 of 6693
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

wow!