Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


The Great Write Way, Act Three: Where's the gun?

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Connie Neil - May 03, 2010 9:07:30 am PDT #3297 of 6705
brillig

That is odd that a copy editor would pick up something that is mostly a point of etiquette. I would think the titles that an author chooses to attach to a character are part and parcel of the whole descriptive package. Miss Manners (my guide to all things social) points out the difference between one nobleman speaking on the phone and saying, "Lord Cavendish, Duke of Salisbury, speaking" and the other picking up the phone and saying, "Yes, Salisbury here."


Amy - May 03, 2010 9:08:43 am PDT #3298 of 6705
Because books.

That's part of the copy editor's job, Connie.


Connie Neil - May 03, 2010 9:09:51 am PDT #3299 of 6705
brillig

To point out etiquette flaws?


Amy - May 03, 2010 9:11:22 am PDT #3300 of 6705
Because books.

To point common usage and conform to a certain style.


Connie Neil - May 03, 2010 9:25:40 am PDT #3301 of 6705
brillig

Did I miss that this was non-fiction? Sorry.


Amy - May 03, 2010 9:36:01 am PDT #3302 of 6705
Because books.

I think most fiction writers want their stories to conform to basic rules of style and grammar, and it's the copy editor's job to edit the manuscript for those things, as well as punctuation, typos, spelling mistakes, and consistency. I've been copy editing books for going on fifteen years now, and you see all kinds of mistakes or things that have been overlooked, and most authors are happy to have you catch them.

I was simply pointing out that the copy editor in Barb's case was making sure she wanted Dr. used the way it was. It's entirely up to Barb to either leave it or change it back. Why would usage rules change when Barb is writing a contemporary story set in the U.S., simply because it's fiction?


Connie Neil - May 03, 2010 9:40:49 am PDT #3303 of 6705
brillig

Why would usage rules change when Barb is writing a contemporary story set in the U.S., simply because it's fiction?

Because the usage of Dr. for non-medical doctors is a socially defined thing, and a competent author doesn't randomly choose the titles that a character uses. A physicist being described as Dr. John Doe, as opposed to John Doe, Ph.D., says a great deal about the character.

It strikes me as a bit overly-obsessive, such as saying "The character in the dining room scene used a dinner fork instead of a salad fork on the Caesar salad. You do know that's incorrect, right?"


Amy - May 03, 2010 9:43:30 am PDT #3304 of 6705
Because books.

Either way, the copy editor is only pointing it out. This is not some huge breach of etiquette on the copy editor's part. Copy editors are hired to make sure that an author's manuscript is as good as it can be before it goes to print. And authors can then make the final call, so what's the big deal?


Connie Neil - May 03, 2010 9:52:17 am PDT #3305 of 6705
brillig

so what's the big deal?

Indeed.


Beverly - May 03, 2010 10:09:36 am PDT #3306 of 6705
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

a competent author doesn't randomly choose

Ah well, there's the problem. Not all are competent. Or care enough to differentiate, or even to be consistent.