Buffy? I like that. That girl's so hot, she's buffy.

Forrest ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - May 30, 2008 6:55:04 am PDT #9762 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

the Stacy's mom/American Pie time.

ISn't there a big gap between those two? I thought Stacy's Mom was relatively recent.


Steph L. - May 30, 2008 6:56:04 am PDT #9763 of 10001
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

the Stacy's mom/American Pie time.

ISn't there a big gap between those two

American Pie the movie (I'm assuming), not the song.


Hil R. - May 30, 2008 7:00:16 am PDT #9764 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

American Pie came out around 1999, Stacy's Mom around 2003 or 2004.


Amy - May 30, 2008 7:01:54 am PDT #9765 of 10001
Because books.

"Stacy's Mom" always made me double-take, too, because I had a friend named Stacy in PA who was definitely a MILF herself, or would be as soon as her kids' friends were old enough to realize it.


Steph L. - May 30, 2008 7:04:20 am PDT #9766 of 10001
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

American Pie came out around 1999, Stacy's Mom around 2003 or 2004.

I wouldn't call that a big gap in terms of cultural trends.


sarameg - May 30, 2008 7:14:57 am PDT #9767 of 10001

I don't want to go to a 4 hour meeting.

But I really should.


Tom Scola - May 30, 2008 7:23:45 am PDT #9768 of 10001
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

I had a serious meltdown this morning in therapy, and I still feel like crap. I feel like I'm so fucked up right now.

Tonight there's a party I'm supposed to go to, and even though things have been cooling down with the girl I've been seeing, I still ought to arrange a date for this weekend. But now I don't know if I wanna even try.


Sparky1 - May 30, 2008 7:27:47 am PDT #9769 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

Tom, if you're feeling like crap this is not the moment to arrange a date (or think about arranging one). This is the moment to take care of yourself so you can stop feeling like crap and start feeling like Tom, the guy with the great smile.

((Tom))


Steph L. - May 30, 2008 7:33:51 am PDT #9770 of 10001
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Ack, Tom. Meltdowns suck. Just having one fucks me up; I mean, I feel fucked up from having the meltdown, regardless of the content of/reason behind the meltdown. Throw in the content, and there's not enough Ativan in the world.

You're not fucked up. Not moreso than anyone else. And you can tell me that's bullshit, that you have levels of fucked-upped-ness that have yet to be uncovered, and still I say: *everyone* is fucked-up, just in different ways. But not everyone does something about it, but *you* are. That right there mitigates the fucked-upped-ness.

And it sucks big time that the "doing something" is so goddamned painful. It's not fair. If you're willing to deal with your fucked-upped-ness, the tradeoff should be that doing so doesn't fuck you up worse. I'm sorry it's so hard. (And you know what I'm going to say, which is: it's still worth it in the end. Plus the bonus of: you've really made progress, which I hope you can see even if you feel like shit right now.)

The therapy meltdown aftermath feels like an emotional hangover, doesn't it? Did you have lunch? I know that sounds facile, but if I'm hungry, then everything gets magnified. A full stomach can help.

As for tonight/this weekend, you have time to let your decision go unmade. For at least a few hours.


juliana - May 30, 2008 7:37:49 am PDT #9771 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

{{{{Tom}}}} Steph and Sparky both have great advice.