Stop means no. And no means no. So . . . stop.

Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Polter-Cow - Apr 09, 2008 9:57:16 am PDT #657 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Does this help at all, PC: [link]

Oh, that's great, Sue! Thanks. Now, see, I don't think I have that V in Box 12, but it seems like they're reporting the ISO income in Box 14.

And on the third page of this thing, it says that the Cost Or Other Basis is the amount you paid for the stock plus the income reported on the W-2. This is exactly how HRBlock calculates it, and this guide specifically says that's what supposed to keep me from being taxed twice!! Maybe because I don't have a Box 12, TurboTax and TaxAct aren't understanding that my capital gains were included in my income already?

And oh!! It even answers my other question: it says that some employers use the closing price to report on the W-2, which makes sense since the closing price was lower than the price I sold at.

It's seeming to me that, thankfully, I...should not be paying thousands more in taxes than I expected? And HRBlock knows what it's doing? I wish I could get those cheaper programs to understand what's going on, though.


Trudy Booth - Apr 09, 2008 10:00:43 am PDT #658 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

CNN is running a really weird piece about a polygamist group that was raided in the 50s, interviewing a bunch of women who were children at the time. The whole thing is being portrayed as some family tragedy, all noble fathers sneaking back to see their wives and the women hiding new pregnancies from the big bad authorities (since part of the men's release from prison was a promise not to, you know, keep it up. Iit was many years before some of the families were reunited." Which, yes, I'm sure that's hard and all, but it's a deeply strange perspective when not contrasted with any other view of the situation.

The Short Creek Raid. [link]

The public really turned on law enforcement once they saw the pictures of the hundreds of crying children being taken from their parents. For fifty some years afterwards officials just looked the other way... until the latest round of crazy abuses started.


Pix - Apr 09, 2008 10:07:10 am PDT #659 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

OMG THIS WEEK IS EIGHT GAZILLION YEARS LONG.


bon bon - Apr 09, 2008 10:07:13 am PDT #660 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

The idea is that once you put is down it will stop swirling around in your head and causing anxiety.

It sounds like a simple thing but it really works. Write EVERYTHING down, from "buy brown belt that fits" to "start chapter 4 of new book" to "start calling mom more." For as long as the list is current your mind will buzz less with liminal reminders.


Gudanov - Apr 09, 2008 10:08:03 am PDT #661 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

The public really turned on law enforcement once they saw the pictures of the hundreds of crying children being taken from their parents. For fifty some years afterwards officials just looked the other way... until the latest round of crazy abuses started.

There's really no way for the law enforcement people to come off looking good is there?


Nutty - Apr 09, 2008 10:08:58 am PDT #662 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

The public really turned on law enforcement once they saw the pictures of the hundreds of crying children being taken from their parents.

O hai, I can haz comprehension of Stockholm Syndrome now?


Pix - Apr 09, 2008 10:09:22 am PDT #663 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Allyson, if you are feeling overwhelmed it might help to write every single thing that comes into your head that you think needs doing (GTD technique). The idea is that once you put is down it will stop swirling around in your head and causing anxiety.

This is a fantastic technique. I just keep forgetting to put a damn notepad in my purse. Which, frankly, is telling.


Trudy Booth - Apr 09, 2008 10:12:57 am PDT #664 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

There's really no way for the law enforcement people to come off looking good is there?

There seems to be no great way to deal with the situation at all besides making it legal.

Either you break of families that aren't hurting anybody* or you force them underground and crazy abuses start to occur.

As long as everybody is of age, I don't see how its anybody's business how many spouses people have.

* (This is based on the thinking that the marrying of young girls, throwing boys out on the street, and building a compound didn't happen until the latest head took over.)


Jessica - Apr 09, 2008 10:13:08 am PDT #665 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

FotC fans take note - they will be performing at Town Hall in NYC May 6&7! Tix go on sale Friday.

[x-posted w/ Premium Cable]


brenda m - Apr 09, 2008 10:14:01 am PDT #666 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

O hai, I can haz comprehension of Stockholm Syndrome now?

Exactly. I mean, I'm sure it was very traumatic for any kid in that situation. No, in any situation where they're being taken out of their homes and away from their families. That doesn't mean it's a bad thing to do, in this and any number of other cases. It wasn't the sympathy for the children that weirded me out, it was the lack of so much as a mention of any reason the authorities might have acted other than being mustache-twirling villians.

(Also, all the women they interviewed are current polygamists. Which, again, certainly a valid perspective. But I find it hard to imagine there aren't any other grown up Short Creek kids who see it differently.)