Mal: Does.. um.. does this seem kind of tight? Kaylee: Shows off your backside.

'Shindig'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


megan walker - May 08, 2008 10:37:42 am PDT #5658 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Here is a replica of San Francisco made entirely out of stainless steel cookware.

OMG, that is awesome! Does anyone want to go see that this weekend?


amych - May 08, 2008 10:39:48 am PDT #5659 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

The radio version of the fertility story made me want to punch things, and the print version not so much at all; sounds like it wasn't just me having a cooler head when I went back to look.


Kat - May 08, 2008 10:41:12 am PDT #5660 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Amych, it may also have been the self-satisfied smugness of the one mother who was all, "of course I stay at home! They are my responsibility!"


msbelle - May 08, 2008 10:42:52 am PDT #5661 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

earlier motherhood

Two things I tell the college seniors in this group I am a part of is to seriously think about and work at meeting mates in college and to not dismiss having children early. Most of them give me the fisheye, but those are still two of my core pieces of advice.


P.M. Marc - May 08, 2008 10:45:19 am PDT #5662 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Amych, it may also have been the self-satisfied smugness of the one mother who was all, "of course I stay at home! They are my responsibility!"

The Mothering(dotcommune) Kool-Aid makes me want to choke people.

A lot.


hippocampus - May 08, 2008 10:45:53 am PDT #5663 of 10001
not your mom's socks.

Amych, it may also have been the self-satisfied smugness of the one mother who was all, "of course I stay at home! They are my responsibility!"

that - especially if there was a certain kind of tone to it - would have made me nuts.

"meandered into motherhood" didn't exactly set me up to be happy with the article. In fact, I'm pretty darn steamed about it.

even though I'm steamed about a lot today.

everything but the word "shitweasel", in fact.


Kat - May 08, 2008 10:46:08 am PDT #5664 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

For me, attempts at earlier motherhood wouldn't have made conception easier or more successful. And, in fact, it would have meant that I wouldn't have had access to the fabulous health insurance that paid for the millions of dollars in healthcare necessary to keep my children alive.


Jessica - May 08, 2008 10:46:41 am PDT #5665 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

it may also have been the self-satisfied smugness of the one mother who was all, "of course I stay at home! They are my responsibility!"

Ah. Yeah, that wasn't in the print version.

"Of course I work out of the home! Having money for food and shelter is my responsibility!"


Pix - May 08, 2008 10:46:49 am PDT #5666 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

I am Kat in terms of baggage about fertility and pregnancy in general. I started trying with my ex-husband when I was 26 and finally gave up three years later (at which point our marriage was disintegrating anyway). ND and I aren't planning to have kids, but there's no doubt I would end up being an older mother by no choice of my own if it ever did happen. (And now I don't have insurance that would cover the very expensive process of trying to get pregnant, either.)

I try very hard to keep the bitter at bay, but it's not always easy.


lisah - May 08, 2008 10:47:14 am PDT #5667 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

Amych, it may also have been the self-satisfied smugness of the one mother who was all, "of course I stay at home! They are my responsibility!"

oh that would have made my head explode

Two things I tell the college seniors in this group I am a part of is to seriously think about and work at meeting mates in college and to not dismiss having children early. Most of them give me the fisheye, but those are still two of my core pieces of advice.

Yeah, but, if I'd married my college boyfriend (and we came close) we would have been miserable. Would I have kids now? Maybe, but what would the cost have been?