Honestly, you meet the most appalling sort of people....

Giles ,'Chosen'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Frankenbuddha - May 07, 2008 7:24:41 am PDT #5345 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

What happened to futurism? Why are we all steampunk now? Betrayed by the lack of jetcars?

That and no rocket packs.


tommyrot - May 07, 2008 7:28:02 am PDT #5346 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

What happened to futurism?

A good question, on which much ink has been spilled. Short version - the energy crisis of the '70s, pollution, economic upheaval, etc. Plus a lot of the futurism stuff just was not practical.

I'd say futurism was a product of America's technological success during WWII, along with rapid advances in technology and the economy during the '50s and '60s. The moon landing was probably the zenith of futurism....


Miracleman - May 07, 2008 7:28:21 am PDT #5347 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

What happened to futurism? Why are we all steampunk now? Betrayed by the lack of jetcars?

That and no rocket packs.

Or intelligent robot dogs with lasers in their nose.


tommyrot - May 07, 2008 7:30:09 am PDT #5348 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Or intelligent robot dogs with lasers in their nose.

Those exist, but the CIA decided they were too dangerous for the average person, and has kept their existence hidden.

It's possible this decision was influenced by the strong pro-cat faction of the CIA....


juliana - May 07, 2008 7:31:26 am PDT #5349 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

(I can't spell today -- I spelled "nominee" about 4 different ways before I got the correct one. Variations included "moninee," niminee," and "nominnr." My fingers are not communicating with my brain.)

Am I the only one who went to a "ma nah ma nah" place?


Fred Pete - May 07, 2008 7:31:39 am PDT #5350 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Clinton wouldn't be the first Supreme Court Justice appointed directly from the Senate. Hugo Black comes to mind, though I'd agree it hasn't been done lately.

While there's an appeal to an Obama-Clinton ticket, and certainly precedent (Reagan-Bush), I don't see her accepting VP if she weren't sure she could use it as a springboard to the White House. And in eight years, she'll be pretty close to the age McCain is now.


CaBil - May 07, 2008 7:32:38 am PDT #5351 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

What that's line? "The future is not what it used to be."

Futurism has betrayed us, failed to deliver on its promises and has been always been about society, progress and culture. All of those seem aligned against the individual. Steampunk in its current incarnation has a strong DIY element, with it celebrating the act of individual creation rather than the relentless progress of society. So what the act of individual creation re-uses otherwise outmoded tech, it is still about how the individual can achieve/make something, as compared to the individual controlled and buffeted by the larger forces in futurism...

I think that is how the argument is going, at least...


Frankenbuddha - May 07, 2008 7:32:39 am PDT #5352 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Or intelligent robot dogs with lasers in their nose.

Or sharks with frickin' lasers attached to their heads.

Am I the only one who went to a "ma nah ma nah" place?

Not anymore.


Jessica - May 07, 2008 7:32:48 am PDT #5353 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Am I the only one who went to a "ma nah ma nah" place?

Nope! I've been humming "do-doo-do-do-do" to myself since Tep posted.


tommyrot - May 07, 2008 7:33:45 am PDT #5354 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

To make up for futurism's disappointments, at least we have this video of a car being catapulted by a trebuchet....

eta: But no explosion at the end. Those Russians just don't think big enough....