Zoe: First rule of battle, little one. Don't ever let 'em know where you are. Mal: Whoo-hoo! I'm right here! I'm right here! You want some of me? Yeah, you do! Come on! Come on! Aaah! Whoo-hoo! Zoe: Of course, there are other schools of thought...

'The Message'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Apr 29, 2008 6:37:40 am PDT #3998 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I saw my first dead baby bird of dead baby bird season this morning. Fallen from one of the two nests under my back porch awning.

I would see a lot of that on the farm. Are some baby birds just suicidal? Is it the result of too much baby bird roughhousing? ("It's fun until someone falls out of the nest and plummets to her death.")


sarameg - Apr 29, 2008 6:41:44 am PDT #3999 of 10001

We have swallows that nest in the garage here. It's always traumatic for me.

Are some baby birds just suicidal?

Very often they are shoved out of the nest by their sibs. Gotta compete for those limited. resources.

er...not to gloom all over the happy robin story.

Honestly, my though pattern went "oh cool! Wait, I shouldn't get too attached."


Hil R. - Apr 29, 2008 6:44:15 am PDT #4000 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Hey, cool. DC is getting a bike share program: [link] Wonder how well it'll work out.


brenda m - Apr 29, 2008 6:45:32 am PDT #4001 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Speaking of which, I really need to decide what I'm wearing to work. High of 76, to what does that translate?

Me hating you?

Sorry, probably not helpful.


Kat - Apr 29, 2008 6:45:33 am PDT #4002 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

A Disney spokeswoman, Patti McTeague, faulted Vanity Fair for the photo. "Unfortunately, as the article suggests, a situation was created to deliberately manipulate a 15-year-old in order to sell magazines," she said.

This statement irks me beyond reason. Of course Vanity Fair manipulates in order to sell magazines, in much the same way that Disney manipulates children to sell (and hell, to buy) shit.

I think the image is whatever. I think the tempest in the teapot about it is a result of Disney being pissed that they aren't controlling her image as well as they would like.


Jessica - Apr 29, 2008 6:47:34 am PDT #4003 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

a situation was created to deliberately manipulate a 15-year-old in order to sell magazines

As opposed to putting her on the cover of Disney magazine, which is a totally spontaneous event with no adult or corporate intervention at all.

@@ forever.


Amy - Apr 29, 2008 6:48:38 am PDT #4004 of 10001
Because books.

What Kat said.

I honestly think it's a lovely picture. And chances are she would show that much back in a dress on a red carpet anyway. It's a lot less provocative, to me, than Brooke saying nothing comes between her and her Calvins.


Cashmere - Apr 29, 2008 6:49:42 am PDT #4005 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Thanks, amych. This is going to be very temporary as I'm taking the laptop in today.


Kat - Apr 29, 2008 6:52:03 am PDT #4006 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

On NPR, the reporter was talking about the response of the 10-15 year old set on some social network site. The reporter mentioned how they felt betrayed by the falls from grace that Lindsay and Britney took. And I kept thinking? What? How? They were into them when they were 5? That's ridiculous.


Jessica - Apr 29, 2008 6:53:39 am PDT #4007 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

chances are she would show that much back in a dress on a red carpet anyway

IMO, there's more to the photo than just the amount of skin, though. Wearing a strapless evening gown does not (necessarily) carry with it the context of "you could totally hit this" the way the vaseline-on-the-lens bedhead sex kitten pose does.