I happen to be very biteable, pal. I'm moist and delicious.

Xander ,'Bring On The Night'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Apr 29, 2008 6:47:34 am PDT #4003 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

a situation was created to deliberately manipulate a 15-year-old in order to sell magazines

As opposed to putting her on the cover of Disney magazine, which is a totally spontaneous event with no adult or corporate intervention at all.

@@ forever.


Amy - Apr 29, 2008 6:48:38 am PDT #4004 of 10001
Because books.

What Kat said.

I honestly think it's a lovely picture. And chances are she would show that much back in a dress on a red carpet anyway. It's a lot less provocative, to me, than Brooke saying nothing comes between her and her Calvins.


Cashmere - Apr 29, 2008 6:49:42 am PDT #4005 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Thanks, amych. This is going to be very temporary as I'm taking the laptop in today.


Kat - Apr 29, 2008 6:52:03 am PDT #4006 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

On NPR, the reporter was talking about the response of the 10-15 year old set on some social network site. The reporter mentioned how they felt betrayed by the falls from grace that Lindsay and Britney took. And I kept thinking? What? How? They were into them when they were 5? That's ridiculous.


Jessica - Apr 29, 2008 6:53:39 am PDT #4007 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

chances are she would show that much back in a dress on a red carpet anyway

IMO, there's more to the photo than just the amount of skin, though. Wearing a strapless evening gown does not (necessarily) carry with it the context of "you could totally hit this" the way the vaseline-on-the-lens bedhead sex kitten pose does.


Kat - Apr 29, 2008 6:54:15 am PDT #4008 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

And hell:

how many people let their 15 year olds, or their 12 year olds, wear makeup?

Wasn't it here where we were talking about the mani-pedi-facial parties at salons and spas for the under 10 set? Sigh. People are irksome.


Amy - Apr 29, 2008 6:55:11 am PDT #4009 of 10001
Because books.

Yeah, I get that. I just ... It's a picture. A gorgeous one. And yes, she's fifteen, but I didn't get a huge sexual vibe from it. Maybe it's just me, but it just seems like a big uproar over not much.


§ ita § - Apr 29, 2008 6:57:11 am PDT #4010 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Britney's a perfect example of how micromanaging your product's morality is a dodgy business at best. I guess people bought into the lie about her virginity, and it started to mean something to them, where I just think the public should back off the sexuality of a minor, since it's not theirs to consume, however ripe it is. The idea of Miley having sex bothers me much less than the idea of people making money off her sexual image.

Me hating you?

Hey, the weather's cooled off. So I don't I'll wear the vintage lace/linen dress I'd originally picked out. I'll find a pair of pants and a short-sleeved top instead. Maybe I'll wear makeup. I don't feel very femme these days. Even jewellry.


Steph L. - Apr 29, 2008 6:58:51 am PDT #4011 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I found this which seems to be the end-all of the Curtis topless kerfuffle, and really? People cared? Don't get me wrong--I think she looks majorly hot, but why is that a big deal? There's no scandal there!

Seriously -- if you look that good at 50, show it off!

In other not-topless news: I am home sick with a cold. I have a porcupine in my throat. I feel like my head is stuffed with dirty socks. And I am not topless.


amych - Apr 29, 2008 7:00:07 am PDT #4012 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I'm not topless either! But I do have approximately the same amount of gray in my hair as Jamie Lee Curtis.