Oh thank you thank you for the link shrift. It was blurry but big enough so I could, you know see what was happening. And Patrick's hips!

Patrick totally owns it, and by that I mean he exploded my brain.

How so hot, tiny little man?

I was thinking that Patrick is hot specifically because he is, like, a stealth hottie. Like, you don't know he's hot, and then, wham, there it is. Perhaps my straight male friend can't see that, cause I think he doesn't even see stealth hotties in girls.

Um, also I hate surveys that ask my ethnicity. I mean, I am white, but I think my "ethnicity" is Italian American, you know.

sophia - can you write in 'human' ?

I was thinking that Patrick is hot specifically because he is, like, a stealth hottie. Like, you don't know he's hot, and then, wham, there it is.

I have joked in the past that I went from "oh, hey, he's that dude in that one band, I think I like his voice" to "JESUS CHRIST, PATRICK STUMP, I WANT TO HAVE YOUR BABIES" pretty much overnight. I'm not entirely sure how it happened. I blame YouTube.

White is not an ethnicity. You can be white and fucking Latina. I mean, if you can be black and Latina, why can't you be white and Latina?

Any opinion on the Miley Cyrus/Annie Leibowitz kerfuffle? I have to say, I probably wouldn't let photos like that of my fifteen year old be published. I'm not sure how they didn't work out their inappopriateness at the time, even if they weren't digital photographs that were immediately reviewed.

Now I have to google the Jamie Curtis topless kerfuffle she refers to here. I disagree with her--I don't think there's anything wrong with a fifteen year old coming to terms with her burgeoning sexuality, but that's not the same as portraying it as part of your publicity package. Just because it turned out okay for Jodie Foster and Brooke Shields doesn't mean it wasn't creepy.

I have to say, I probably wouldn't let photos like that of my fifteen year old be published. I'm not sure how they didn't work out their inappopriateness at the time, even if they weren't digital photographs that were immediately reviewed.

That's pretty much my take. If it were my daughter, she'd have her top on, end of story.

The creepiest part of the Younger Cyrus thing is that her topless photoshoot included her father. I mean, I haven't seen topless + father in the same picture, but. Way to foreground the creepy!

The image in question strikes me as classic Leibowitz, i.e. lovely; but the kind of thing that, once you know the context, i.e. the subject is underaged, the loveliness is a little appalling.

I agree with Nutty- I am more creeped out by the incesty vibe than the topless young woman vibe.

Shrift- someone's journal has the a tagline something like "at 6:58, I was never going to love another band, and at 7:35 I was googling pictures of Pete Wentz's cock". That is sort of how I feel about Patrick.

Yeah, what bothers me about that image isn't that it's topless, but that it's a fairly sexual image -- wrapped in bedsheet, mussed-up hair, bright lipstick, and so on. And it's not so much that it's a sexual fifteen-year-old, but that this fifteen-year-old's sexuality is being spotlighted in a photo shoot totally orchestrated by adults. (There have also been some photos recently of her goofing around with friends, that had some shots of her lying across a guy's lap and pulling aside her tank top to show her bra strap and some other stuff like that, and I've got much less problem with those, because they seemed like her just being a kid.)

I thought I read somewhere that her parents had left for the day during the topless part of the photo shoot, but that her tutor and grandmother were still there.