Early: You folks are all insane. Simon: Well, my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

'Objects In Space'


Natter 58: Let's call Venezuela!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JZ - Apr 08, 2008 4:34:42 am PDT #189 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Timelies, all.

Ouch, sarameg. Clearly you need to look for wall-to-wall bubble wrap wallpaper in that house you're looking for, right?

I still hate ita's headaches and wish they would just fuck off and go away forever, but at least eliminating the misery of the stupid horrible days and nights in the ER battling over long-established meds is definitely a good good thing.

My dad used to take my brothers and me to a Denny's around the corner from his office on Saturday afternoons; I was always fascinated by the lounge, a dingy smoke-filled red-lit room off to one side behind old-fashioned Wild West swinging double doors. Such an illicit place where grown-ups might do any number of grown-up things (though in fact I think it mostly contained weary truckers and grumpy warehouse managers from the businesses along the docks).

And now I think I have to register for Yelp.com, because my college diner only has one review, and it's a grudgingly bestowed two stars, which is so unjust.

Tom, which version did you see? From my relatively recent reading, I'd say (1) liberty and (2) figment or further liberty.


Dana - Apr 08, 2008 4:35:40 am PDT #190 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Did Austen mean to imply that Marianne slept with Willoughby, or was that a liberty taken by the filmmakers?

I don't think so, as that would have been a HUGE deal. When Lydia runs off with Wickham in Pride and Prejudice, everyone fears that she's not only ruined her own reputation, but also ruined the marriage chances of her sisters.

Is it also implied that Marianne caught a disease from Willoughby, or is that purely a figment of my imagination?

I think that one's just you.


Tom Scola - Apr 08, 2008 4:39:38 am PDT #191 of 10001
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Tom, which version did you see?

The one that just aired on Masterpiece Theater.


JZ - Apr 08, 2008 4:45:46 am PDT #192 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Ah, I haven't seen that one, so I don't know what they might have added. But, yeah, if they implied that Marianne slept with Willoughby, that would be a breathtaking liberty.


Miracleman - Apr 08, 2008 4:49:20 am PDT #193 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Hey, here's a little something for Jon B.

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msbelle - Apr 08, 2008 4:53:45 am PDT #194 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I give you my current earworm: [link]


Tom Scola - Apr 08, 2008 4:54:58 am PDT #195 of 10001
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

YouTube is blocked for me at work now. Which in this instance, is probably a blessing.


msbelle - Apr 08, 2008 4:56:55 am PDT #196 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

probably so, it is theme song for the latest incarnation of the Power Rangers - Power Rangers: Jungle Fury.


Fred Pete - Apr 08, 2008 4:59:50 am PDT #197 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Have been to Denny's but can't remember the last time. We have several IHOPs near home, so that's where we go when we're in that kind of mood. We'll also go to the local Silver Diner now and then, but they try too hard to create an atmosphere that has to develop naturally.

There was a Big Boy near where we lived at one point, but I think it closed.

I always think of Perkins restaurant as a cut above diner. Not fancy, but just a bit nicer place than the typical diner.


Cashmere - Apr 08, 2008 5:16:37 am PDT #198 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

Scola, I was watching that version last night. That part was just you. I've always seen it as being implied that Marianne's fever was brought about by her being abandoned by Willoughby.

Were you referring to the conversation Elinor had with Mrs. Jennings when she said Willoughby and Marianne were not lovers?

I'm full of gronk this morning. Went to bed at midnight, Owen got up at 4 with a nightmare and Liv was up for good by 5:30 a.m. It's going to make for a loooooong day.