It rings very strongly of those things for me, too. I think that's intentional. I hope they treat it with the seriousness it deserves, but I certainly got the impression that all the people doing the abusing were the villains, at least - which is a good place to start, if not everything that needs to happen to make it work.

I'm really looking forward to it now, after that trailer. I hope they spend as much time on the horrible psychology as they do the ass-kicking, actually. But then, I LOVED The Inside for that very reason - the rawness of its exploration of the demons it uncovered, in the killers AND in the heroes. I can sense some of that being possible in Dollhouse, with added superpowers. I hope we see a lot of struggle with self as echo recovers memories, especially painful ones - but maybe that's my love for post-insane Faith speaking.

Oh and I forgot to say:

Sail, your reasoning for not ignoring it would be the precise reason I would choose to ignore it. At least in the beginning, anyway. But that's just me.

And the whole "they volunteered for this" part doesn't help, Steph?

And the whole "they volunteered for this" part doesn't help, Steph?

When scruffy lab-tech guy said "They volunteered" to black dude in the suit, and black dude in the suit asked, "*Did* they?" I took that to mean that the Actives' involvement was perhaps less than voluntary.

I mean, do we *know* that, from the outset? *Are* the Actives doing the doll gig on a completely voluntary basis?

I'm firmly with Steph. I don't think the exploitation/mindwiping aspect is something I'm going to just work around.

Probably a little of both, if I had to guess. It can't be that simple.

The prostitution comparison is obvious, and must be intended blatantly. Some prostitutes really do get into the gig entirely voluntarily, I'm sure. But there are also well-known rings that force people into them at young ages, psychologically damage them into believing its their choice, and generally take advantage of every way people can abuse one another to get them to do what's good for the bosses. Adding the ability to technologically remove memories and chemically induce desires almost seems unnecessary, but does greatly increase the power of those abusers.

Gathering from my inability to get at the video now that wasn't a legit posting back then? Damn it!

eta:

I don't think the exploitation/mindwiping aspect is something I'm going to just work around.

I always figured it was the point, so while I'm not on the defensive or pre-squicked, I'm certainly very curious. People signing up for something they were sure they could handle, and then...

ita, there's a link to a Quicktime version at the bottom. Try that.

At least in the beginning, anyway.

I'd prefer it that way, too, but it still wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me. I guess I've spent too much time in male-dominated environments that I don't think twice if that's the first place a guys mind goes to. It's true to life. What matters isn't that it goes there, but how it comes out of it.

I got nothing, Gris. Just the shiny Q.