It's my estimation that... every man ever got a statue made of him, was one kind of sumbitch or another.

Mal ,'Jaynestown'


The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!


Typo Boy - Jul 10, 2009 3:35:05 pm PDT #2163 of 4535
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I guess what I should have said is that Tim has fewer blind spots in his recent writing than Joss has in his. I just was mad enough about those blind spots to put it in a more inflamatory way than perhaps I should have. But I do think there will be much less ick in a Dollhouse with Tim in control than a Dollhouse with Joss in control.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 10, 2009 4:08:43 pm PDT #2164 of 4535
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Is Joss gone? I know Tim's been named executive producer, and someone mentioned showrunners leaving, but Joss wasn't showrunner on later Buffy or a lot of Angel, was he?

I'm thinking if Tim is showrunner, it's going to be much like previous Tim/Joss shows. However, I think where things ended up at the end of the season are WAY more interesting than where they started, and I also can't help but wonder if this is where Joss wanted it to be before Fox started "improving" on it.


Kristen - Jul 10, 2009 4:14:56 pm PDT #2165 of 4535

I'm fairly sure that Joss is still there. I have no idea whether or not Tim's change in title translates to him being Dollhouse's showrunner.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 22, 2009 9:58:14 pm PDT #2166 of 4535
What is even happening?

Also, being a feminist isn't a contest.

Ding ding ding! Yes.

Or, as they say in the biz, show, don't tell.

Or as they say in the fandom, "If I didn't see it on screen it didn't happen."

I love Joss like I love chocolate and/or red wine (not usually together, because that way lies migraines), but I couldn't watch Dollhouse, because...well, no. Just no. It pains me, because I'm a completist, but just no.

Tim, what happened to that Preacher Man show you were pitching. Okay, that's way far from the right title or description, but you know what I mean. My long-buried fundamentalist is longing for it.


Barry Woodward - Jul 25, 2009 7:35:59 am PDT #2167 of 4535
I fought the law and I won!

Joss:

“I think with this show, I want to say to the people who have, you know, felt a connection with me, that maybe you want to back away and avoid eye contact,” he said. “That maybe there’s something horribly wrong with me, and this is my very poetical way of expressing that. I think of it as a work that actually frightens me at times in a way that my shows seldom got to. At the same time I have that sort of jolly love of everything that’s going on and have to be reminded that what I’m doing is reprehensible. So it’s a mature work in the sense that I grew up and went insane.”
Source


Laga - Jul 25, 2009 8:38:30 am PDT #2168 of 4535
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

whoa


Kristen - Jul 25, 2009 11:11:28 am PDT #2169 of 4535

Discussion of those comments is probably better suited to Jossverse, no?


Barry Woodward - Jul 25, 2009 11:35:31 am PDT #2170 of 4535
I fought the law and I won!

Perhaps, but since people were discussing Whedon's feminist cred here I thought it might be pertinent.


erikaj - Jul 25, 2009 11:50:50 am PDT #2171 of 4535
Always Anti-fascist!

I'm not sure what that even *means*, not on a spiritual level, but on a sense making one. Am confused.


libkitty - Jul 26, 2009 7:30:12 pm PDT #2172 of 4535
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I love Joss like I love chocolate and/or red wine (not usually together, because that way lies migraines), but I couldn't watch Dollhouse, because...well, no. Just no. It pains me, because I'm a completist, but just no.

Don't really love red wine, but still, this is me. I tried, but I just can't do it. Maybe sometime, but not yet.

I don't really know what Joss's statement means, but yet, I'm really glad he said it. If he's doing this because he feels he needs to, then fine, but I'm glad he realizes that the craxy isn't just everyone else.

I am soooooo sad that this is the series that gets picked up for a second season, though. What a waste. Sigh.