Look, you got a little stabbed the other day. That's bound to make anyone a mite ornery.

Mal ,'Ariel'


The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!


Polter-Cow - Jul 07, 2009 7:22:14 am PDT #2120 of 4535
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I caught an episode of that show once and was entertained. It seemed fun.


Vortex - Jul 07, 2009 7:26:42 am PDT #2121 of 4535
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

And talking about 70s cop shows makes me wonder why G vs E still isn't out on DVD.

oh, how I loved that show. it has one of my top TV moments ever, when McNeil (played by Richard Brooks) has been trapped in a room with a heated floor. He's running/dancing up and down singing "ain't nothin' gonna break-a my stride, nobody gonna slow me down, oh no! I got to keep on mo-vin'"


quester - Jul 07, 2009 9:41:05 am PDT #2122 of 4535
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

G vs E

I never got to see enough of that.


Kevin - Jul 09, 2009 10:44:29 am PDT #2123 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

According to Fox Tim has moved up to an Executive Producer on Dollhouse.


Typo Boy - Jul 09, 2009 11:38:35 am PDT #2124 of 4535
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

You know that's good. I've come to the conclusion that Tim is a much better feminist than a certain other talented writer/producer/showrunner. Because Tim did not take a friggin women's studies class decades ago, and decide he did not need to learn anything more about feminism since.


Kevin - Jul 09, 2009 11:44:48 am PDT #2125 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Is Tim a feminist? I've no idea. His episodes of Dollhouse season one skirted around (i.e. completely avoided) that aspect of the show. Which worked quite well, really.

The two showrunners for season one have left Dollhouse. I'm hopefully it will be better.


Typo Boy - Jul 09, 2009 12:03:42 pm PDT #2126 of 4535
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I don't know what he would call himself, but I'm pretty sure he accepts that women are human beings, that women are often not treated as human beings and that this is a serious problem. And I think I trust him more with women characters than a lot of writers who make louder claims on the subject.


Kevin - Jul 09, 2009 12:19:54 pm PDT #2127 of 4535
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I dunno, I'm going to go with Joss on that one. I might not agree with him on everything, but he's actively donated towards and considers his output from a feminist POV.


Allyson - Jul 09, 2009 12:21:45 pm PDT #2128 of 4535
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Being closer to the earth, my opinion on the subject is a bit different.


Typo Boy - Jul 09, 2009 12:33:00 pm PDT #2129 of 4535
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

But then I look at what he actually does. He invented Inara: "and look, there's a whore". Some of the most problematic treatment of Eliza in dollhouse were things Joss wrote. Yeah Tim evaded the issue somewhat in his ep. Given the setup he was given don't see what choice he had. But he dealt too. I'd say he was a LOT less offensive than Joss overall. Joss seems to me the guy who knows it is offensive to put women in refrigerators, but then decides it is OK for him to put women in refrigerators. (See first episode of Dollhouse.) Yeah politically Tim is a conservative Libertarian where Joss is a liberal. I think Buffy was a happy accident. Joss wanted to turn the cliche of the little blond gets killed at the beginning of the horror film around by having her be kickass, and did something great. But post Buffy, I think Tim has written better women than Joss. I made a guess at the reason, but I think the case that Tim has written women better than anything Joss has written post-Buffy is a strong one. And with something like Dollhouse where you have some really problematic issues, I suspect Tim will do a better job. And believe me my politics are much closer to Joss than Tim. But I think Tim writes women better. And I think he is actually better at treating them as people in his scripts and when he supervises and shapes the work of other writers.