At least the main characters weren't the worst people on the show this week, which is kind of how I felt last time.
We have to see the chimp playing hockey! That's hilarious! The ice is so slippery, and, and monkeys are all irrational. We have to see this!
Anya ,'Bring On The Night'
The Minearverse 6: Fiery Thread of Death
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath. Oh, and help us get Terriers dvds!
Jesse - Feb 20, 2009 6:36:47 pm PST #1895 of 4535
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
victor infante - Feb 20, 2009 6:39:35 pm PST #1896 of 4535
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
At least the main characters weren't the worst people on the show this week, which is kind of how I felt last time.
Yeah, although the only one I actively like so far is Langton. Which is an improvement over last week.
erikaj - Feb 20, 2009 6:42:13 pm PST #1897 of 4535
Always Anti-fascist!
Like I said, I'm a Lehane fan, so really hard to gross out. And then, there was the season of "The Wire" where nobody cared about the cans of dead hookers...I'm not your mama's women's studies alum and I'm aware of that.
Jesse - Feb 20, 2009 6:46:09 pm PST #1898 of 4535
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Yeah, erika. I don't really mind if everyone is terrible, as long as there's something compelling about the main characters. Which can still be terrible -- Bubba Rogowski, anyone?
quester - Feb 20, 2009 7:06:39 pm PST #1899 of 4535
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.
Reed Diamond's character strikes me as very much not a good guy. He was abusing Echo, knowing she couldn't defend herself or remember it later.
SailAweigh - Feb 20, 2009 7:12:08 pm PST #1900 of 4535
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
I'll be tuning in next week. I was fascinated by the way Echo turned the call and response with Boyd around on him, the "do you trust me" coming from her instead of him. It starts opening the same can of worms that seem to have resulted in Alpha going amok. Is it part of Caroline emerging, is it failure of the mindwipe or is it a new identity being built spontaneously around the absence of Caroline and Echo that is emerging? Is it the physical brain structure holding on to little bits of each imprint and trying to build something new? At what point will a completely different and self-aware conscious emerge? Will it be aware that it ever was Caroline/Echo? Is it murder to destroy that emerging conscious to wipe it back to Echo or even to put the original Caroline back in?
It's sci fi, Joss can really play with this from the technical aspect and from the philisophical. There's still so much we don't understand about the working of the human brain and about what makes us--us. Cogito ergo sum. But what are the beginnings of cogito and who is the sum?
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 20, 2009 7:32:05 pm PST #1901 of 4535
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Reed Diamond's character strikes me as very much not a good guy. He was abusing Echo, knowing she couldn't defend herself or remember it later.
Ah, but how much more satisfying was Echo's shoulder thump following on the heels of his smug dickery? I think that may have been my AHA! moment for this series, like the kick into the engine turbine or Darla showing her game face.
erikaj - Feb 20, 2009 7:33:34 pm PST #1902 of 4535
Always Anti-fascist!
"Are you sorry? Really?"
§ ita § - Feb 20, 2009 8:04:07 pm PST #1903 of 4535
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Too much sexing. I hope she doesn't have to be sold for sex every week. The framework I don't mind. But if she keeps being literally whored out, I lose interest.
I really liked Langton in this episode. I liked his arc a lot. And Reed Diamond's character is appropriately nasty--I can get behind that too. Eliza and Helo are the weak points for me.
Typo Boy - Feb 20, 2009 8:47:29 pm PST #1904 of 4535
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Well, from the Promo, next week Echo is a bodyguard. But literal whoring is a big part of the premise. Being able to buy not just sex, not just a personality type and skill set, but someone who genuinely thinks themselves in love or has a serious crush/serious lust is the one of the few things the dollhouse offers a billionare can't buy elsewhere. Yeah its not real, but it goes beyond acting.
And Eliza was convincing this week. Then again, her character was a vulnerable badass.