I wasn't too thrilled with "the new moon has made her a virgin again", or whatever that line was. Mindwipe does not equal sexual purity.

Oh yeah, I didn't like that line either.

people who tie each other up for sex don't have league regulations, etc. (And therefore no cool jerseys and TV broadcasts on Sunday afternoons.)

Alas! Because I'd totally buy one of those jerseys, and I think that the commentators would be comedy gold.

I didn't find him skeevy in this episode. I find his perspective interesting because I get the sense that, while he believes they're helping people and is proud of his work in a scientific sense, he finds it unfortunate that he has to continually strip the Actives of their peopleness, leaving them nothing but shells.

See, I didn't take his lines about "we help people" as dialogue that was meant to be taken seriously. And I also am not picking up any regret on his part about mind-wiping the Actives. Right now, all I get is that he thinks that what he does -- the technological/neurobiological aspect of it -- is so fucking cool that it doesn't matter how he's using it, or on whom, or what the consequences are.

And putting the actual victim IN THE REFRIGERATOR? I laughed and laughed and laughed. "Look how ironic I'm being! Because the victim survived and was in fact rescued by another woman, so my skeevy gender issues are okay!"

Ha! I didn't pick up on that.

I kind of took it as a post-Dr. Horrible Fuck You to fandom.

(It also annoyed me when Veronica Mars put Veronica in an actual refrigerator in the S1 finale, because the show was generally so damn good otherwise.)

people who tie each other up for sex don't have league regulations, etc. (And therefore no cool jerseys and TV broadcasts on Sunday afternoons.)

Alas! Because I'd totally buy one of those jerseys,

Well, we *do* have t-shirts (at a recent event I went to, there was one I wanted to buy for Jilli that said "Don't worry, it's not MY blood"), but sadly, no league shirts.

and I think that the commentators would be comedy gold.

Heh. Given some of the parties I've been to, you're so NOT wrong.

what the consequences are.

I really liked the opening scene, by the by.

"Actions have consequences."
"What if they didn't?"

Heh. Given some of the parties I've been to, you're so NOT wrong.

Bwah!

What I didn't get from the premise and the promos was the amount of free will the Actives have. While I knew the entered the program somewhat willingly, I had also thought they submitted themselves to the mindwipes willingly as part of the agreement. But that's not the case. There appears to be an implanted suggestion that they come back for "treatment," but they have no idea they're about to essentially kill their selves.

We gave up nineteen minutes in. It seemed weirdly sloppy to me, as if he went into it figuring that the only audience who would watch were people who already knew the premise and his history with other shows.

It seems like a fantastic premise for a porno movie with high production values, like Pirates.

However, it did make me really nostalgic for Buffy and Angel, so I could remember that these people? Are capable of writing/acting/directing the shit out of an episode of television.

When i look at the set-ups of Lie to Me and Leverage, they were so pitch perfect at introducing a cast and a premise. That's how it's done. This? Total mess. Throwing as much shit at the wall to see what sticks. It's frustrating.

I mean, Buffy was exploited heavily, by her watcher, by the Watcher's Council, and we saw this wonderful journey of a young woman becoming self-aware. That was pretty fucking awesome.

This is just porn. Straight up.

I wasn't too thrilled with "the new moon has made her a virgin again", or whatever that line was. Mindwipe does not equal sexual purity.

It's from Tennesee Williams' play Camino Real, the prostitute character Esmeralda says, "I never remember what happened before the moonrise makes me a virgin."

At least, I hope that's what Joss had in mind.

Sparky, I think he's commented on that somewhere (to confirm).

The ratings aren't actually that bad, looking at it. They won the key demos they wanted. Also, it doubled it's female viewership over Terminator.

Allyson, the pitch of Dollhouse is a young woman becoming self aware and fighting those who put her in that position. Well, that's the idea.