Ten percent of nothing is -- let me do the math here -- nothing into nothing, carry the --

Jayne ,'Serenity'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

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Juliebird - Aug 26, 2009 6:03:20 am PDT #9544 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

The little bits that i caught I got the impression that Artie had made a mistake with the mirror and gotten burned badly, and so was overcompensating.


Typo Boy - Aug 26, 2009 6:14:30 am PDT #9545 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I got the impression that Artie had made a mistake with the mirror and gotten burned badly, and so was overcompensating

I don't disagree, but I think this validates accusations of stupidity. For a supposedly rational man, a lot of his behavior is driven by emotional reaction to past trauma. When Myka told the psychic that "that is his problem" she is right in the sense that it should be his problem and not his employees. Then again I've never liked Artie. He has always been rude, dismissive from the beginning, and made a habit from day one of not supplying his employees with enough information.

BTW, did anyone else guess as soon as it was clear that this was a Dodson related artifact story that at some point in the ep that they play "White Rabbit"?


§ ita § - Aug 26, 2009 8:21:55 am PDT #9546 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think it was that mirror exactly that had burnt him, but something else with shadows of people. Still, his reaction was unprofessionally emotional.

It's a shame, because I love Saul Rubinek, and I want to like the character he plays. I just can't get past the writing.

did anyone else guess as soon as it was clear that this was a Dodson related artifact story that at some point in the ep that they play "White Rabbit"?

I absolutely did not see SyFy paying for two original songs in one episode.


Theodosia - Aug 26, 2009 9:33:15 am PDT #9547 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

FWIW, the mirror has been previously identified in an earlier episode as a Dodgson artifact. However, these days, I have to wonder how many people can connect Dodgson to the Alice books, since after all, they were written by that Lewis Carroll guy, right?


§ ita § - Aug 26, 2009 9:39:41 am PDT #9548 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think they did more than identify it as Dodgson, unless my brain did the translation completely transparently. Maybe they used "Alice in Wonderland."


Miracleman - Aug 26, 2009 10:03:18 am PDT #9549 of 30001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I'm listening to the four Torchwood BBC Radio Plays, and...they're really good.

The last one, "The Dead Line", makes very good use of Rhys. Kind of awesome.


Miracleman - Aug 26, 2009 10:11:54 am PDT #9550 of 30001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

And, holy shit, does Ianto get a hell of a monologue.


§ ita § - Aug 26, 2009 10:21:08 am PDT #9551 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And, holy shit, does Ianto get a hell of a monologue.

In my head it replaces the "I die, you don't die" speechyfing in CoE. I like it and Jack's response much better.


Invisible Green - Aug 26, 2009 10:45:45 am PDT #9552 of 30001

The Sarah Jane Adventures series 2 is finally coming to DVD in both the UK and US: Link


Frankenbuddha - Aug 26, 2009 10:51:30 am PDT #9553 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

That never aired in the US, did it?