Sir? I think you have a problem with your brain being missing.

Zoe ,'The Train Job'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

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-t - Aug 24, 2009 5:02:55 pm PDT #9537 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I could have them switched, but that's how I remember it. And it's just where the idea started, I believe, I don't know how important it remained as the characters went supernatural and developed personalities


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 25, 2009 8:22:39 am PDT #9538 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Right, originally George was supposed to be OCD and Annie was supposed to haev self-esteem issues. I think the former was a little clearer in the pilot, though I suppose Annie's vulnerability to Owen may indicate lowered self-esteem, even if it was lowered by concerted bullying and manipulation.


DebetEsse - Aug 25, 2009 10:01:24 am PDT #9539 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I think self-esteem issues and invisibility (to most people) are a decent parallel.


Morgana - Aug 25, 2009 1:09:35 pm PDT #9540 of 30001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Uh-oh. (a girl is fading away in front of the lockers, Buffy goes up to her) Hey, shy girl, don't do this. Oh... (Buffy slaps the girl)

Of course in the real world slapping someone who already has low self-esteem probably wouldn't really help.


§ ita § - Aug 25, 2009 9:29:07 pm PDT #9541 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I had very little patience with Artie's initial behaviour in this episode. Perhaps there are reasons for him to be wary, but I don't think he sold his case very well and came off callous and dismissive, especially since we knew that it was the real Myka in there.

Creepy Alice was creepy.

Original songs were coolly used.

Pete McClintock continues to be a cutie. Poochie was even more useless than in Eureka. I read on TWOP that Joe Flanigan was disappointed with how little they had him do in his episode, and he had way more than Erica or whatsisname.

Of course, next week is Joe Morton. No one wastes Joe, right?


Theodosia - Aug 26, 2009 3:58:19 am PDT #9542 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

It gave me a weird feeling, because I kept thinking Poochie and Erica were their Eureka characters.

Artie is seriously like the worst boss EVER. Only with a boss like Mrs. Whatzit would he get to be in charge of all those toys....


le nubian - Aug 26, 2009 5:52:47 am PDT #9543 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ita,

I had very little patience with Artie's initial behaviour in this episode. Perhaps there are reasons for him to be wary, but I don't think he sold his case very well and came off callous and dismissive, especially since we knew that it was the real Myka in there.

I completely agree. WTF was up with his behavior. I thought it was completely stupid - for someone who is reportedly so intelligent. It would have been better for him to be initially cautious (not dismissive), but take more time to figure out that it was really her. It might have relied on her partner's acting skills a bit, but it might have been helpful for him to be a bit suspicious earlier on.


Juliebird - Aug 26, 2009 6:03:20 am PDT #9544 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

The little bits that i caught I got the impression that Artie had made a mistake with the mirror and gotten burned badly, and so was overcompensating.


Typo Boy - Aug 26, 2009 6:14:30 am PDT #9545 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I got the impression that Artie had made a mistake with the mirror and gotten burned badly, and so was overcompensating

I don't disagree, but I think this validates accusations of stupidity. For a supposedly rational man, a lot of his behavior is driven by emotional reaction to past trauma. When Myka told the psychic that "that is his problem" she is right in the sense that it should be his problem and not his employees. Then again I've never liked Artie. He has always been rude, dismissive from the beginning, and made a habit from day one of not supplying his employees with enough information.

BTW, did anyone else guess as soon as it was clear that this was a Dodson related artifact story that at some point in the ep that they play "White Rabbit"?


§ ita § - Aug 26, 2009 8:21:55 am PDT #9546 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think it was that mirror exactly that had burnt him, but something else with shadows of people. Still, his reaction was unprofessionally emotional.

It's a shame, because I love Saul Rubinek, and I want to like the character he plays. I just can't get past the writing.

did anyone else guess as soon as it was clear that this was a Dodson related artifact story that at some point in the ep that they play "White Rabbit"?

I absolutely did not see SyFy paying for two original songs in one episode.