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Being Human: Loving it, even though George is a huge girl most of the time with the screeching, and Annie is a sniveling self-pitying dishrag (I know, she's an abused woman; I get it, it just annoys me), and Mitchell is seriously fucked up despite that he seems the sanest one on the show and can't decide if he really wants to be an amoral vampire or a good quasi-human. (Mitchell is also very good-looking, which is not swaying my opinions at all.) I think this is the first time I've ever enjoyed a show that has no characters that I like particularly much.
Why did that other ghost fall in love with Annie? She didn't seem like his type. She didn't like anything he liked, and didn't seem to like him much either.
I think Mitchell felt guilty and responsible for the kid's death, even though he absolutely wasn't, and I think he was rolling his guilt over Lauren into a big dung ball of Guilt and trying to save *somebody* instead of destroying everyone he touched, and I think at the end he realized that his intent to save the boy had ultimately doomed both him and his mother. So, being Mitchell, he walked away and hated himself some more. I don't think Mitchell hates himself for being a vampire; he likes that; I think he hates himself for ruining the lives of innocent people. There's got to be a story there, of why Mitchell is so fucked up.
The child-abuse storyline didn't bother me, considering there wasn't any child abuse actually happening. Did it occur to no one that possibly this screeching drunken woman was lying? The readiness of people to treat other people like shit without any evidence whatsoever is bothersome, but if that's all it took to make a hundred-year-old vampire decide the human species are monsters, seems he might have been looking for an excuse to go back to killing them. Mitchell might be a nice guy for a vampire, but he is not a nice guy.
Torchwood: Haven't watched. Probably won't. The commercials on BBC now seem to indicate that Torchwood is coming back, with Gwen. No one else is in evidence, so far.
With ZenkItty on Mitchell. Also I would add that he makes Angel seem bright by comparison. He thought they could turn everyone into vampires, and not leave any humans around to feed on? He really thought that was the plan? Not as annoyed by Annie. She seems to be overcoming her emotional problems, which is a really hard thing to do. And I don't blame her for them. Because it is actually pretty easy for normal person to be lured into an abusive relationship. get broken down by abuse, and have huge emotional damage to overcome.
BTW I wonder if I'm missing some nuance here. Are varying accents of George, Mitchell, Annie and Nina class signifiers? Are they from differing classes?
Or at least different regions originally? Bristol is just a stone's throw from Wales, IIRC.
BTW I wonder if I'm missing some nuance here. Are varying accents of George, Mitchell, Annie and Nina class signifiers?
Not really much, nowadays. Mitchell is Irish, as is the actress who plays Nina, but even that hardly has any baggage any more. As far as I can recall George and Annie are just generic south-of-England; the actors are from Essex and London (i.e. generic south-of-England). Certainly not Welsh or West Country, which is how people in Bristol talk.
I remember a while ago someone posted that the characters were originally supposed to map to a particular dysfunction. I think Mitchell is addiction, Annie is OCD, and George is... what? The intro from the episode where he meets the other werewolf made me think of an AIDs victim (the voiceover was saying something about one victim infecting the next). Does anyone else remember this, or am I misremembering things?
George is OCD and Annie low self-esteem, IIRC
Really? I thought Annie's incessant making of tea and doing dishes and whatnot slid her into the OCD slot. Either way, I'm glad my subconscious isn't just making things up.
I could have them switched, but that's how I remember it. And it's just where the idea started, I believe, I don't know how important it remained as the characters went supernatural and developed personalities
