I hate to break it to you, oh impotent one, but you're not the big bad anymore, you're not even the kind of naughty.

Xander ,'Showtime'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Vortex - Aug 18, 2009 8:57:11 am PDT #9434 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

That too. I'd buy Tess' characterization way more if she'd have been asking those questions alongside us, even if only to hang a lantern on the fact that they were being handwaved away.

exactly. Ask the question, speculate, then get distracted and move on.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 18, 2009 9:13:23 am PDT #9435 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oh well, at least the cast is mostly enjoyable in their interactions even if the science is headache-inducing. I gave up on Defying Gravity after two episodes because I couldn't believe these people could survive a bus trip across town together, nevermind 6 years in outer space.


Vortex - Aug 18, 2009 9:17:37 am PDT #9436 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I keep meaning to check that out, but keep forgetting.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 18, 2009 9:19:01 am PDT #9437 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't think watching would make it any more memorable.


le nubian - Aug 18, 2009 9:33:54 am PDT #9438 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Matt is dead on - and yet I continue watching. They are keeping me watching because I want to know WTF is up with Beta.

On DG, there is so little reality: there is no way highly trained astronauts would behave this way. They would have all worked out their personal relationships and issues before being put on this 6 year flight. There will be blood around year 1 if they keep behaving like this.

However, given that we did have astronaut diaper lady, I suppose anything is possible.


CFerg - Aug 18, 2009 9:58:48 am PDT #9439 of 30001

I could list off a bunch of things that I didn't let go on and you'd be shocked that they not only got all the way to shooting, but people fought to keep them in.

It's a strange strange world.... and yeah, we all have our most hated episodes...P brain was probably mine.

I like J Ray though. Liked acting with her... was constantly sympathetic to how much brutal tech dialogue she had to wade through but really appreciated the energy she brought.

And Loved Jordan this year. She really stepped it up.... but I always love Jordan.


§ ita § - Aug 18, 2009 11:22:24 am PDT #9440 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I gave up on Defying Gravity after two episodes because I couldn't believe these people could survive a bus trip across town together

Well, there is the out that Beta manipulated things to get those people together--but why the NASA equivalent caved so easily...I guess they had no choice if the mission was indeed to go forward.

I don't think watching would make it any more memorable.

I can't stay away because I love the cast. I started because of Ron Livingston and Malik Yoba, but Sheriff Andy from Eureka's on it, and great, and the guy playing Ajay is compelling yet almost creepy.

but I always love Jordan.

Your chemistry shows it. You've got one of the best father/daughter relationships on TV.


Jon B. - Aug 18, 2009 11:23:08 am PDT #9441 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I could list off a bunch of things

We're listening...


Vortex - Aug 18, 2009 11:34:44 am PDT #9442 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I didn't know that Malik Yoba was on it, I will try to check it out.


Juliebird - Aug 18, 2009 11:38:18 am PDT #9443 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I've been enjoying Defying Gravity, but in whatever short life it has, I need to it to start moving the mythology arc forward more. I like the characters and relationships a lot, but I feel like it's on a treadmill right now.