One of you is gonna fall and die, and I'm not cleaning it up!

Mal ,'War Stories'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Trudy Booth - Jul 29, 2009 5:15:00 am PDT #9219 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

We were Mineared but good on that one, weren't we?

I'm intreigued by the many ways being an immortal seems to fuck you up. Living forever SEEMS like a good idea until even the longest-term relationship is ephemeral, everyone around you is so fragile, their death is just a matter of when to you. You can be tormented in a myriad of ways and not die which may make death easy in comparison. When the consequences of everything you do over a thousand years or so blow up in your face eventually it must become difficult to make any decision.

I love how Frobisher did what he did for nothing making it truly tragic. I am also kind of wrecked over the first time he finds his spine it is for his family -- they trusted him and he was worth trusting. Of course, it gets them killed.

Toward the beginning when Ianto and Jack were trying to borrow the children in their families... when the Hub blew up all I could think was "thank God the kids weren't there". Heh. Little did I know, right?

It's interesting to me how Jack's Daughter doesn't trust him in her life, but she trusts him to save the world. And she's absolutely correct on both counts.

If I were Jack I'd get away from Gwen and that baby so I didn't kill them.

Oh, I also loved how Clem was correct indeed, they DID know he could hear them. And I can't wait to re-watch with the knowledge that the aliens are completly fucking high the whole time.


DebetEsse - Jul 29, 2009 6:01:37 am PDT #9220 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

And I can't wait to re-watch with the knowledge that the aliens are completly fucking high the whole time.

This. It certainly makes the spewing green goo read differently, at the very least.

I'm torn. In a lot of ways, I don't see much of a coming-back for Torchwood, after this. However, I think Jack's still got interesting story ahead of him (Face of Bo, what). And, you know, with someone other than Russel writing it, perhaps 10% less bleak? Might be nice? Jack needs some redemption.


Vortex - Jul 29, 2009 6:08:00 am PDT #9221 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

This. It certainly makes the spewing green goo read differently, at the very least.

one of my friends posited that they weren't high, but in withdrawal, which is why the random twitching and spewing.


Trudy Booth - Jul 29, 2009 6:16:09 am PDT #9222 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

But that one had a kid to suck. Maybe it was like, um, god help me, chewing old gum until you can get a new piece?


Trudy Booth - Jul 29, 2009 6:40:55 am PDT #9223 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I keep thinking about it a lot. If "can't get it out of your head" is one of your marks of a good story (it is mine) they hit paydirt with this one.

Of all of them, Jack knows something most about the living death that would have been awating those children.

And if you wipe out the 10% from the working class you've arguably killed the next generation of Iantos and Gwens.


Theodosia - Jul 29, 2009 8:01:02 am PDT #9224 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I don't use the phrase 'fate worse than death' lightly, but living death as alien drug producer certainly qualifies.


Jon B. - Jul 29, 2009 8:26:16 am PDT #9225 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

which is why the random twitching and spewing.

Maybe, for the 456, random twitching and spewing is pleasurable.


Pix - Jul 29, 2009 8:27:10 am PDT #9226 of 30001
The status is NOT quo.

We were Mineared but good on that one, weren't we?

I think that's what bugs me. Tim has broken my heart many times, but I never felt like he did so unnecessarily. He delivers just enough pain for me to gasp, "You bastard!" hating the tragedy yet never feeling cheated by it. I'm sure Tim would still have left carnage, but I suspect I wouldn't be feeling cheated at the end.


Trudy Booth - Jul 29, 2009 8:36:06 am PDT #9227 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Yeah, cheated is not what I feel. But then, I never do -- so I'm no real guage of that emotion.


beekaytee - Jul 29, 2009 10:13:31 am PDT #9228 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

wrong thread! ...moving along...