Wesley: Perhaps the whole point of this experiment is hair. Gunn: I vote he's not in charge.

'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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quester - Jul 24, 2009 7:33:27 pm PDT #9089 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I'm having to rewatch since the storm knocked out my satellite and I just got to the scene where Frobisher went home to his family, with the gun. OMG!


le nubian - Jul 24, 2009 7:45:34 pm PDT #9090 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I hope you have anti-depressants and whiskey on hand, quester. I had neither!


§ ita § - Jul 24, 2009 7:45:35 pm PDT #9091 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How about the reveal that they're using the kids for drugs? That all this is about a fix? Made it all so skeevy and street corner.

Frobisher did what he had to do, given the information and resources he had at the time, poor man. Brilliantly played by Capaldi.

And the guy who played Dekker was icky when he came up with the solution that would kill Stephen. He looked too smug.


quester - Jul 24, 2009 7:57:21 pm PDT #9092 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Yeah, Decker is scum. I did get to see the very end, so I know what's going on with Briget, the way she looks at the Prime Minister - chilly!

Oh my god, the way Jack's daughter was looking at him with such pride until she realized what he was going to do.


quester - Jul 24, 2009 8:05:36 pm PDT #9093 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Oh that was grim.

This is worse than Wash's death and I cried like a baby in the theatre over that.

I think I hate RTD.


§ ita § - Jul 24, 2009 8:13:49 pm PDT #9094 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My sister is hoping people throw cream pies at him at Comic Con. He's put people off Sarah Jane adventures. Which makes me feel quite middle of the road reasonable.


WindSparrow - Jul 24, 2009 8:42:18 pm PDT #9095 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Torchwood was just ugly. I loved Ianto's brother-in-law, though. And I totally pegged him for fighting off the coppers and army to protect all those kids, when push came to shove.


Trudy Booth - Jul 24, 2009 9:13:57 pm PDT #9096 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

And the guy who played Dekker was icky when he came up with the solution that would kill Stephen. He looked too smug.

Didn't he actually SAY "that kid'll fry"? My stomach actually heaved a couple of times. That was one.

That whole thing was incredible.


Barb - Jul 25, 2009 4:55:33 am PDT #9097 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

And the guy who played Dekker was icky when he came up with the solution that would kill Stephen. He looked too smug.

Didn't he actually SAY "that kid'll fry"? My stomach actually heaved a couple of times. That was one.

Yeah, I turned to Lewis and said "Of all the really disturbing things in this episode, that was the one thing that really made me want to go medieval." It wasn't just smug, he looked downright gleeful, like he couldn't wait to see it. Kind of reminded me of the mad scientist character that Brent Spiner played in ID4, after everything's been blown to hell and he says it's "very exciting" that the ship is exhibiting signs of life. Except that character was oblivious after being shut away for so many years working on the project. Dekker was most assuredly not oblivious. He was just an evil SOB.

And yeah, ita, the fact that it turned out to be just a massive drug deal was something else. Although, in a way, the clues were there. Their main power was in viruses and anti-viruses. And in the children, they'd found something they couldn't recreate. And really had the net effect of making the PM come off like the nasty corner pusher.


WindSparrow - Jul 25, 2009 5:10:32 am PDT #9098 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

About Eureka - I love, love, love the scene at the end where Jack confronts Allison about "what's coming". That was perfect. I'm less crazy about Lexi's big reveal to Duncan - because just lifting the magic-techno baby-bump hiding shirt without a word of explanation about the material is unreal. Also, at this point, what are the chances that Duncan's two plus two comes up with five?