Am I supposed to be changing my clothes a lot? Is that the helpful thing to do?

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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Morgana - Jul 18, 2009 1:40:57 pm PDT #8905 of 30001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Re: Eureka -- personally, I was disappointed that Jo didn't at the very least bitch slap jealous-scientist-chick.


WindSparrow - Jul 18, 2009 2:25:11 pm PDT #8906 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Yeah, I gotta say, if I had written that ep., Fargo would be visiting his new girlfriend in Arkam Asylum.


Monique - Jul 18, 2009 4:34:46 pm PDT #8907 of 30001

For the record, that was Colin's directorial debut.

I mentally wandered off during the credits, but when I saw Jack would be in two days' worth of testing, I figured that was the reason. It's usually what happens when an actor takes on directing duties.

Good for him!


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 18, 2009 6:06:27 pm PDT #8908 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

If I'd written that episode the Jo that sang in the slinky dress and made out with Fargo would have been the real one and Poochie would now be hanging around wherever Dr. Single White Female was incarcerated trying to score a date with the one woman desperate enough to put up with his BS.


Vortex - Jul 19, 2009 6:46:02 am PDT #8909 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Yeah, I gotta say, if I had written that ep., Fargo would be visiting his new girlfriend in Arkam Asylum.

It didn't surprise me. It's been well established that Eureka holds science above just about everything else. As long as you didn't kill anybody you're probably okay. Alison even said "in light of your advances in genetic research". Think about the applications for espionage for example.


Burrell - Jul 19, 2009 2:47:08 pm PDT #8910 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Go Colin! That was a good episode. Did he enjoy directing? I would think it would be fun, stressful but fun. And a logical next step for a smart actor.


§ ita § - Jul 19, 2009 3:10:49 pm PDT #8911 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Did he enjoy directing?

I think he's trying to make a habit of it. Expect more (and not just Eureka).

Today seems to have been Captain Jack day on BBC America. They showed a bunch of his Dr. Who episodes, but not all of them, irritatingly enough. They skipped the ones where they battle the Daleks and Rose gets the time vortex inside her.

I had all but forgotten the season finale where Martha rouses the whole world to think of the Doctor and save him from living the rest of his life as Gollum. Simm was a joy to watch in that. Just a joy.

And it reinforced my apples and oranges and melons theory--you can't compare how good Captain Jack and the Doctor and Sarah Jane are at their jobs by casualty rate or anything like that, because they're in descending order of age of audience, and the stakes and the results vary accordingly.


Typo Boy - Jul 19, 2009 4:39:34 pm PDT #8912 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Except I think Captain Jack is canonically supposed to incompetent. I agree there are Meta reasons for the difference but I also think there good reason within the story. And I think one piece of evidence of intentionality is Jack being "American". Yeah, really from a distant planet in the future and probably has spent less time in American than almost anywhere. But all the contemporary characters, and other going back 50 years or a century or so seem to consider him American. I think to the extent that "American" is a signifier in contemporary U.K. fiction he can be treated as American.

And he is not just American, but canonically dishonest, with poor impulse control and someone who tends to trust his gut instinct over his brain. In U.K. popular fiction today, is that not a pretty strong anvil signifying "can burn water making tea"?


§ ita § - Jul 19, 2009 5:22:57 pm PDT #8913 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He hasn't lost the Earth yet. Just paid a higher price for it.


Theresa - Jul 19, 2009 5:28:03 pm PDT #8914 of 30001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Finally got to see Eureka. Good job director Colin!

I'm certainly not Zane's biggest fan, but I didn't find Jo's boyfriend to be annoying this last episode. I thought they were sweet together actually. It was great to see the character of Jo have so much time this episode. And Erica Cerra continues to be stunningly beautiful.

I like Jo more with Fargo just because Fargo's crush is so cute. Fargo is cute period. His little dance when he found out that psycho girl was getting to stay in Eureka was pricelss.

It's good to have Eureka back.