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Yeah, I gotta say, if I had written that ep., Fargo would be visiting his new girlfriend in Arkam Asylum.
It didn't surprise me. It's been well established that Eureka holds science above just about everything else. As long as you didn't kill anybody you're probably okay. Alison even said "in light of your advances in genetic research". Think about the applications for espionage for example.
Go Colin! That was a good episode. Did he enjoy directing? I would think it would be fun, stressful but fun. And a logical next step for a smart actor.
Did he enjoy directing?
I think he's trying to make a habit of it. Expect more (and not just Eureka).
Today seems to have been Captain Jack day on BBC America. They showed a bunch of his Dr. Who episodes, but not all of them, irritatingly enough. They skipped the ones where they battle the Daleks and Rose gets the time vortex inside her.
I had all but forgotten the season finale where Martha rouses the whole world to think of the Doctor and save him from living the rest of his life as Gollum. Simm was a joy to watch in that. Just a joy.
And it reinforced my apples and oranges and melons theory--you can't compare how good Captain Jack and the Doctor and Sarah Jane are at their jobs by casualty rate or anything like that, because they're in descending order of age of audience, and the stakes and the results vary accordingly.
Except I think Captain Jack is canonically supposed to incompetent. I agree there are Meta reasons for the difference but I also think there good reason within the story. And I think one piece of evidence of intentionality is Jack being "American". Yeah, really from a distant planet in the future and probably has spent less time in American than almost anywhere. But all the contemporary characters, and other going back 50 years or a century or so seem to consider him American. I think to the extent that "American" is a signifier in contemporary U.K. fiction he can be treated as American.
And he is not just American, but canonically dishonest, with poor impulse control and someone who tends to trust his gut instinct over his brain. In U.K. popular fiction today, is that not a pretty strong anvil signifying "can burn water making tea"?
He hasn't lost the Earth yet. Just paid a higher price for it.
Finally got to see Eureka. Good job director Colin!
I'm certainly not Zane's biggest fan, but I didn't find Jo's boyfriend to be annoying this last episode. I thought they were sweet together actually. It was great to see the character of Jo have so much time this episode. And Erica Cerra continues to be stunningly beautiful.
I like Jo more with Fargo just because Fargo's crush is so cute. Fargo is cute period. His little dance when he found out that psycho girl was getting to stay in Eureka was pricelss.
It's good to have Eureka back.
Star Trek isn't sci-fi for adults on British TV though. (Which just goes to show that if you define your parameters narrowly enough, almost anything can be "groundbreaking.")
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Ooookay. I'm going to assume that you didn't mean that to be as patronising as it was, and just move on.
Enjoied eureka and that is all I have to say Not much else to say I guess.
Colin did a great job! Really like the episode!
Ooookay. I'm going to assume that you didn't mean that to be as patronising as it was, and just move on.
I apologize if I was too flip there. This line in the review pinged me hard and made it very difficult for me to take the rest of it seriously:
The show we have just had was, to use that trite phrase again, ‘groundbreaking’ in more ways than one. It just took adult sci-fi to a new level in this country. And it did it by using sci-fi as a way to explore political and social issues of monumental importance at a time when they very much need to be explored.
It's simply absurd to say that any SF produced in 2009 is "groundbreaking" for using the genre's tropes as a vehicle for socio-political commentary. Using the clarifiers "adult" and "in this country" (and the implied "on TV") makes it slightly less absurd by narrowing the field of potential counter-examples, but only slightly, as Strega and others have shown.