Can we maybe vote on the whole murdering people issue?

Wash ,'Serenity'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Juliebird - Jul 10, 2009 1:18:02 am PDT #8716 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

DW: Why do I have the feeling that after this feature event, Ten will get his very own spin-off show? Longest swan song ever.

TW: Eep! On one hand, I don't want to have another "this character was totally All Dead and now, after the cliffhanger, they'll use the resurrection glove and it won't unwork (undead Ianto, careful with him, Jack). Or we'll find out that they were only Mostly Dead/in a coma/unable to die because of constant and intimate contact with Jack's DNA.

Because the resolution to the creeptastic "It was a gift" by actually changing the mood of the scene and deleting that line was cheap.

On the other hand, I don't like the idea that if Ianto stays dead, they might bring back the Gwen/Jack thing, which, ugh.


Fay - Jul 10, 2009 2:01:51 am PDT #8717 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I have seen no Torchwood, and have only spoiled myself a wee bit in this thread, but IANTO MUST NOT DIE!!!!!!!!

::flails::

I HAVE SPOKEN!

::looks very sternly at the universe::


DCJensen - Jul 10, 2009 2:08:05 am PDT #8718 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Windsparrow and I watched TW part one last night. Will likely watch more tonight or tomorrow.


beekaytee - Jul 10, 2009 4:39:16 am PDT #8719 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I'm totally with Fiona. (And, thanks Juliebird for directing me to DailyM!)

The handling of the 456, from beginning to end, has been a total cock-up . Maybe I'm so bewildered that I can't recall a worse series of decisions on this show, but I really can't.

The pathosy bits have been really powerful but the actual execution seems much more handwavey than usual. Even the mostridiculous situations in series 1&2 made SOME sort of sense. But not this time .

I suppose the overarching theme being the bitter wages of guilt makes its own sense but...feh .


Laura - Jul 10, 2009 7:25:14 am PDT #8720 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

So I should have held off on watching Day Four until I had Day Five in hand. I won't nitpick until I see it through. I'll just sit here quietly sobbing NOOOOOOOOOOOO !


JenP - Jul 10, 2009 8:29:33 am PDT #8721 of 30001

Yeah, I hear you, Laura. I keep adding hours to my current time to see how long it's going to be until I get resolution.


Laura - Jul 10, 2009 8:31:28 am PDT #8722 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Oh yeah, I know that routine too.


le nubian - Jul 10, 2009 8:43:17 am PDT #8723 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Torchwood doing well in the ratings...

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beekaytee - Jul 10, 2009 9:02:13 am PDT #8724 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

How could it NOT do well?

As distressed as I've been, I AM riveted. I really want a resolution I can feel good about.

I've just become uneasy about one thing though, based on the comment upthread about seeing the scientist guy we thought was dead on the 'next times'. I won't like it if the virus is just a knockout drug the 456 use to simulate the mass destruction they can't actually wreak. It would be a very Dallas kind of moment. Though, the we'll have the children NOW, timeline could be a ploy with all the splattery, banging about just being for show.

It might be kind of cool if the resolution was that the 456 figured they'd hoodwinked the stoopid humans once before, why not go for broke and run a big con. That would make the unscrutinized complicity of Frobisher and Co. even MORE odious.


Laura - Jul 10, 2009 9:12:25 am PDT #8725 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

They made a big deal out of the fact that they previously gave up the children. Really looking forward to the conclusion. I hope the numbers will help the possibility of much more Torchwood.