Handsome brooding vampire guy has to swoop in all sensitive mouth and overhanging forehead. How 'bout leaving some scraps for the homely-looking fellows who don't turn evil when they get some?

Doyle ,'Life of the Party'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

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Shir - Apr 18, 2009 5:29:06 am PDT #7945 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

And thanks, Nora and everyone who used the spoiler font to protect me from DW spoilers. I appreciate this!


Shir - Apr 18, 2009 6:07:56 am PDT #7946 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Oh, and Daleks in German? Awesome.


Consuela - Apr 18, 2009 7:25:52 am PDT #7947 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I'm still angry about Donna's conclusion.


Nora Deirdre - Apr 18, 2009 7:28:26 am PDT #7948 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I agree, she deserved better. I felt as torn apart at the conclusion of Journey's End as I was when Nine regenerated.

I'm so glad to have known her though.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 18, 2009 7:36:58 am PDT #7949 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'm so glad to have known her though.

Indeed. And something I can't even imagine saying based on her first appearance.


Shir - Apr 18, 2009 11:02:40 am PDT #7950 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I'm angry, or just don't understand lots of things.

And yet, dalek Kan or Caan or whatever you spell its name? So damn funny.


Fay - Apr 18, 2009 5:50:53 pm PDT #7951 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

What specifically are you angry about, or not understanding, Shir?


Kathy A - Apr 18, 2009 6:14:09 pm PDT #7952 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Oh, and Daleks in German? Awesome.

That so worked!!

I was a big fan of that episode, except for the whole "human Doctor perfect for Rose" bit. That was really lame, IMO. Although I did like the way that Tennant played him as a blend of the Doctor and Donna. "Oi, watch it, space boy!" "Oi, watch it, human!"

I'm glad I asked the co-worker who borrowed my S4 DVDs for them back when I ran into her on Friday--now I really want to watch the whole season again!

Donna's end was so damn tragic, but I kinda liked the way they left it. I'm hoping/guessing that she went on to become more than she was before she met the Doctor even with the mind wipe, just because her mom won't be such a Debbie Downer anymore.

I really have got to work on that fanfic I've had brewing in the back of my head, where she ends up working with Sarah Jane in an investigative story, but Sarah Jane has to remember not to mention the Doctor while working with her. I'd like to see what I can do with a Donna coming into her own without the Doctor's influence.


Barb - Apr 18, 2009 6:20:05 pm PDT #7953 of 30001
“Not dead yet!”

Donna's end was so damn tragic, but I kinda liked the way they left it.

It was very much a Hero's Journey for her.

I'm hoping/guessing that she went on to become more than she was before she met the Doctor even with the mind wipe, just because her mom won't be such a Debbie Downer anymore.


Juliebird - Apr 18, 2009 6:24:52 pm PDT #7954 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Anytime I get depressed about Donna's ending, I think of or even reread Jacob's recap for season 4:

I just wanted you to imagine that you met a man, the most wonderful man in the world, and that he showed you the stars, wonders and terrible things, all the majesty our world can muster. All the kindness and the brilliance and the bravery that lies in you. That he, among all of us, was capable of teaching you how wonderful you are, every second of the day. That you have a better choice than to turn right, or left. Look up at the stars, or laugh. Or jump.

I want you to imagine that you were chosen, of all the women and men in the world, to go on a wonderful adventure. Because of who you are, and what you can become.

And then I want you to forget that he [n]ever existed. In story school they teach you a very simple thing. First there are facts: "The King Died." Then, there are plots: "The King Died, The Queen Died." And then there are stories: "The King Died, The Queen Died Of Grief." But this isn't a story, it's your life. That's not how it works in the real world.

Dear Donna, the real world sucks. The world is wrong. So fix it. The Queen Lived.

So live.