Angel's lame. His hair goes straight up, and he's bloody stupid!

Buffybot ,'Dirty Girls'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


DXMachina - Mar 05, 2008 10:52:14 am PST #794 of 30001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

The original Due South thread morphed into the de facto Stargate thread, so it came along for the ride with the Smallville and Farscape threads when the three were folded together into Boxed Set. Plus, as noted, ghost dad.


Ginger - Mar 05, 2008 10:54:02 am PST #795 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I know the line between fiction fiction and science fiction is a wavering, lightly penciled line, but to me, post-apocalyptic fiction shows life after a world-changing disaster. Nuking millions of Americans and having the country break up into fiefdoms is world changing to me. Books like Alas, Babylon, The Postman and No Blade of Grass are largely straight drama, past the apocalyptic event, but I think of them as SF. As I draw the line, the SF premise per se makes it SF. YSFMV.


sumi - Mar 05, 2008 11:01:44 am PST #796 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Well, The Road - surely that's Science Fiction? But it's not.


Ginger - Mar 05, 2008 11:04:24 am PST #797 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

See, I say The Road is SF, but most mainstream authors avoid the category if at all possible, because of its second-class status.


sumi - Mar 05, 2008 11:09:24 am PST #798 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Hey, this interview with Lennie James that Keckler did, I didn't link that before, did I?


victor infante - Mar 05, 2008 11:18:29 am PST #799 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I mean, I'd assumed Jericho was sf, but I can't support it with an actual argument.

Utopian and dystopian fiction are subsets of speculative fiction, as is science fiction. So at the very least, Jericho and sci-fi are cousins.


Strega - Mar 05, 2008 11:49:56 am PST #800 of 30001

I raised that at some point, apparently he talks to someone who's a ghost or something. Believe me, we had an extensive, full-on Buffista discussion :)

Oh, I know; I think I saw at least one of those discussions. It still doesn't make sense to me, but it doesn't need to. I don't care where Jericho is discussed; it's not like I'm concerned about getting spoiled for it.

Nuking millions of Americans and having the country break up into fiefdoms is world changing to me.
I dunno, I need something closer to "the end of civilization" to call something apocalyptic. 24 and The West Wing dealt with a fictional world-changing events if nasty geopolitical shakeups are all it takes. That didn't make them SF.


sumi - Mar 05, 2008 11:54:04 am PST #801 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Alexander Skarsgard has been cast on True Blood.

(I suppose this belongs in the Premium Cable thread - but I don't go there.)


sumi - Mar 05, 2008 11:58:36 am PST #802 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Also from Sciffy:

A one-minute preview of Stargate: The Ark of Truth, the upcoming straight-to-DVD movie that wraps up the Ori story arc of SCI FI Channel's Stargate SG-1, will air during the March 7 season finale of Stargate Atlantis, which begins at 10 p.m. ET/PT; Ark drops on March 11.


§ ita § - Mar 05, 2008 12:27:57 pm PST #803 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Utopian and dystopian fiction are subsets of speculative fiction

The meaning attributed to "speculative fiction" bugs me more than "genre" ever can. Isn't it at least a teeny little bit redundant?

I hadn't quite processed "straight-to-DVD" correctly. Darn it! I don't need to own the wrapup of the Ori. ::toddles off to netflix:: Hey! What's this "watch now" business? In addition to having three disks out I can watch online at no extra charge? That makes no sense.