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Lilah ,'Not Fade Away'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Juliebird - Apr 05, 2009 4:15:35 pm PDT #7747 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

David is so the least intriguing character, although I'd rather watch him be Marty Stu than watch Jack's constantly runny nose and bloodshot weepy eyes. Writers: being good and destined by greatness does not equal boring. All the other characters are so fascinating (minus Michele)... maybe with a better actor? But it's the writing as well, and I'll also give a boo to the directing. But a better actor could at least add *some* internal thought processes and depth to David. I was really hoping he'd get shot and hospitalized for the next several eps. He's only interesting because of Silas' interest in him.


le nubian - Apr 05, 2009 4:27:47 pm PDT #7748 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I think writers often have a difficult time creating a virtuous character who is interesting.

I mean Neo was perhaps the least interesting character in the Matrix trilogy; goodness knows Luke Skywalker was as well. They probably needed to write the character (and cast the role) as David = Hans Solo/Indiana Jones. Which might have been an interesting take.


Juliebird - Apr 05, 2009 4:36:46 pm PDT #7749 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Yeah, that could have worked. Give him a quirk, an adventurous side, thrill-seeking. Something. A sense of humour. Last week when he was out "partying" with Jack was incredibly painfully boring.


Juliebird - Apr 05, 2009 5:07:29 pm PDT #7750 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Someone on TWoP noticed this:

The smoke went in one direction but the flag was flapping in another.

Totally didn't catch that.


Stephanie - Apr 06, 2009 1:41:48 am PDT #7751 of 30001
Trust my rage

So, the original David (i.e. in the Bible) became best friends with the king's son, to the point of many speculating that they were lovers. I'm curious to see if they use that part of the story.


le nubian - Apr 06, 2009 3:00:31 am PDT #7752 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

how did that work when he married the king's daughter?

the Old Testament confuses me.


amych - Apr 06, 2009 3:23:30 am PDT #7753 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I'm curious to see if they use that part of the story.

Damn, I hope so, as it's pretty much the whole reason I'm watching.

Okay, that and Ian McShane.


Stephanie - Apr 06, 2009 3:29:03 am PDT #7754 of 30001
Trust my rage

how did that work when he married the king's daughter?

Well, I guess I should say that many *today* speculate. I don't think there's any direct reference in the original text. David had a bunch of wives (Bathsheba, mother of Soloman and Michal, daughter of Saul are the only two I remember off the top of my head.)

eta: Oh, and Abigail.


WindSparrow - Apr 06, 2009 5:02:18 am PDT #7755 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

According to Wikipedia, David's wives were: Michal, Ahinoam, Abigail, Maachah, Haggith, Abital, Eglah and Bathsheba.


DCJensen - Apr 06, 2009 5:06:06 am PDT #7756 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Wow. There's a reason some biblical names are still used and some aren't.