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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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sumi - Apr 03, 2009 6:53:57 pm PDT #7724 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Man, Derick!!!

And then - Sarah!!!

Although, not dead.

And the whole John Henry/JH's Brother -> relation to skynet.

I'm glad that they're bringing the threads back together.

And, I really wanted to see Cameron come into contact with the Shirley Manson character and recognize what she was.


Dana - Apr 03, 2009 7:04:31 pm PDT #7725 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

AUGH Sarah Connor.


tiggy - Apr 03, 2009 8:20:41 pm PDT #7726 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

i'm really pissed off at the way they offed Derek. he ramped up so much of the potential for this show last season and this season they've consistently misused him and mislead us about his intentions. then we get that? fuck that. i'm pissed and i'm not sure i'll be all that sad if next week's ep is it.

BAG, you deserved better.


§ ita § - Apr 03, 2009 8:33:49 pm PDT #7727 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

BAG, you deserved better.

He may have left under his own steam.


Consuela - Apr 03, 2009 8:38:11 pm PDT #7728 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

BAG, you deserved better.

Actually, I kind of respect the way they killed him. It was sudden and shocking and just as he was (maybe) reconciling with Sarah, and after she'd shown him his brother's grave. I am upset and more emotional than I expected, but it was bravely done.

Hell of an episode. I cannot WAIT to see what happens next week. Only one more episode! Waaaah!


§ ita § - Apr 03, 2009 11:08:03 pm PDT #7729 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I love the look John gave Cameron before they walked away from the electronics store. Between Charlie, Derek, and his mum's arrest, he's a big boy now. He may be future John Connor in all but events transpired. If any of those people were still around, they'd be at least nominally in care of him. For the first time he has to be in charge, and there's no one to stop him.

And he's pissed off.


Consuela - Apr 04, 2009 6:08:28 am PDT #7730 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Oy. All that angst over killing Sarkasian is going to be nothing. I worry about Ellison surviving the next 36 hours!

And Weaver is such a wildcard! What's going to happen!


beekaytee - Apr 04, 2009 10:29:05 am PDT #7731 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Though not guffaw-inducing, BAG's tag was Deep Blue Sea-esque.

Shockingly appropriate.

I'll miss that character but I agree that Derek was misused. Such a shame. BAG brought an A-game I didn't know he had.

It's an interesting shake up. All but one of John's supports have become unmoored. Lot's of story potential in that. I hope they get the chance to tell a good one.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 04, 2009 4:03:34 pm PDT #7732 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Damn. Happened to catch the tail end of the first Torchwood episode on BBCA, and I got a pang about Owen and Yoshiko. Gonna miss them if they don't find a way to make them show up.

But a pang about Owen? Would have thought that UNPOSSIBLE based on that episode. And yet...there it is.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 04, 2009 6:44:04 pm PDT #7733 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Just saw the most recent SCC and I have to agree, Derek's offing was horribly brutal, but not inappropriate. So much good stuff in this episode. And I also agree that Thomas Dekker, having started off being a bit of a whiny, emo John Conner (which, to be fair, isn't that far off from Edward Furlong's take in T2), now seems ready to take the role of world's savior.

Actually, all the actor's are doing a marvelous job. And who knew Gareth Dilahunt could sing, along with being able to play all manner of monsters. Joss really needs to use him in something.

I'm terrified for Savannah at this point. Most of the episode I thought John Henry had developed true feelings, but now I'm pretty sure that's not the case.

Actually, I'm mostly scared there won't be another season so all this intriguing stuff will just be left dangling in the wind.