You two carried me through that war. Now I need you to carry me just a little bit further. If you can.

Tracy ,'The Message'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


tiggy - Apr 02, 2009 4:33:09 am PDT #7689 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Sam gets back to 2008 but can't deal so he jumps off a roof.

You can decide if he winds up in 1973 or not.

that's not entirely the end. he jumps off the roof and then we have him back in 1973 where he left off. he saves Annie, Gene, Chris and Ray. then he and Annie kiss they all continue to fight crime. i didn't love the UK ending, but it was miles better than the US.


sumi - Apr 02, 2009 4:42:43 am PDT #7690 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Oh, that's right.

But in 2008, he's in a coma and then he dies and he has also died in 1981 - because it's 7 years later. But it wasn't 7 years later in 2008.

Confusing.


Jon B. - Apr 02, 2009 4:55:16 am PDT #7691 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

that's not entirely the end. he jumps off the roof and then we have him back in 1973 where he left off. he saves Annie, Gene, Chris and Ray. then he and Annie kiss they all continue to fight crime. i didn't love the UK ending, but it was miles better than the US.

The intention of the creators was that it was all in his head and that everything that happens to him in 1973 after he jumps off the roof happens in the instant before he dies from the impact.

My problem with the UK ending wasn't that he jumped, but that it seemed to be presented as a reasonable action. Whereas my reaction was "Oh boo hoo! Police work in 2006 involves too many bureaucratic meetings. Life was so much more interesting in 1973 so I'm going to jump off a roof!" Gimme a break. I get that he was depressed, but that's what therapy is for.


Nora Deirdre - Apr 02, 2009 5:30:27 am PDT #7692 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Ahahaha, I remember this debate well back when it originally aired.

I am much less emotionally involved by now, thank god. Man, I was so pissed at that ending.


Jon B. - Apr 02, 2009 6:27:06 am PDT #7693 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I am much less emotionally involved by now, thank god.

Oh, me too!


Shir - Apr 02, 2009 6:28:54 am PDT #7694 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I am much less emotionally involved by now, thank god. Man, I was so pissed at that ending.

I was just mostly confused.


Dana - Apr 02, 2009 6:39:58 am PDT #7695 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

they all woke up from these pods that had the whole gang in a coma-like state. apparently, they were all scientists from the year 2035 and on their way to Mars to find some kind of "genes" so they can cure cancer

WHUT.


Dana - Apr 02, 2009 7:00:11 am PDT #7696 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Also, obligatory "I loved the Life on Mars ending and don't really care what the creators say" post.


sumi - Apr 02, 2009 8:42:56 am PDT #7697 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Yes - that was the ending.

BUT, the second to last shot shows the crew in their astronaut space walk suits getting ready to step onto Mars. The last shot is a white loafered foot stepping onto that red, red ground.


sumi - Apr 02, 2009 8:51:55 am PDT #7698 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Interview with Colin Ferguson about Eureka and an interview with James Marsters about Moonshot and about the western meets space aliens movie he's doing for SciFi (or Syfy) channel.